to have the corvid jab or not

[sandymere 8,263]

2 hours ago, socks said:

You get a far better immunity to the virus by catching it and recovering. 

Alas no, we don't know how long natural immunity will last as its a new virus, we do know that having two vaccines, ie a double whammy for our immune systems is very effective with building longer time immunity to many infections and more effective with stopping infection with Covid in the short term but only time will tell how long the immunity will last.

Bottom line is basically the vaccine is pretty risk free whereas the virus isn't, we've had 10000 die of covid but none of the vaccine.

edit to ad vaccine versus infection.

French study finds contracting Covid gives 6-month immunity

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Edited January 29, 2021 by sandymere

[Squirrel_Basher 17,101]

100,000 Sandy 

[sandymere 8,263]

15 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

100,000 Sandy 

Sorry getting a little tory and mixing up me figures 

[socks 32,253]

29 minutes ago, sandymere said:

Alas no, we don't know how long natural immunity will last as its a new virus, we do know that having two vaccines, ie a double whammy for our immune systems is very effective with building longer time immunity to many infections and more effective with stopping infection with Covid in the short term but only time will tell how long the immunity will last.

Bottom line is basically the vaccine is pretty risk free whereas the virus isn't, we've had 10000 die of covid but none of the vaccine.

 No there has been 100,000 deaths recorded of people that have died after testing positive for covid not died of covid. 
 

the world health organisation are the ones that have said natural immunity is better than the vaccine. Nobody knows how long immunity will last from the vaccine or from natural infection as the vaccine is brand new with no long term testing. 

[sandymere 8,263]

4 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

As we don’t know how much immunity a vax will give and how long for

Its all a guessing game as it’s a guessing game that it won’t cause harm to folks health down the line in 5-10-20-25 years time .

A very big risk to take for something that kills so few in the scheme of things and very very few health individuals under the age of 70 never mind teens and kids ect 

Kills a few ??? you are a heartless fella Max.

[sandymere 8,263]

13 minutes ago, socks said:

 No there has been 100,000 deaths recorded of people that have died after testing positive for covid not died of covid. 
 

the world health organisation are the ones that have said natural immunity is better than the vaccine. Nobody knows how long immunity will last from the vaccine or from natural infection as the vaccine is brand new with no long term testing. 

Indeed the number is likely higher as there are more stating, death from Covid, on death certificates but they don't use the higher figure, being the current government, but the Doctors who do the cause of death are experienced doctors, years of work under their belts and they know what killed their patients in the great majority of cases and if they put covid then its a safe bet it was covid, or are you saying all those thousands of doctors are all conspiring to lie?????

 

where does the WHO say natural immunity is better?? follow link for more info.

French study finds contracting Covid gives 6-month immunity

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[Squirrel_Basher 17,101]

3 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

Did I say kills a few ?

And I’m def not heartless 

Just not falling for all the propaganda and I also put the lives of all those going to die of cancer ‘heart disease ‘strokes’ suicide and every other ailment because of this lockdown of services due to the Oovid over reaction .

Not to mention folk losing jobs homes ‘family breakups due to the above ‘ kids lost schooling and mental health .

Isiosted OAP’s 

The list is endless to a virus that ain’t killed no more than 400 healthy under 65s  from a population of 70 million .

 

Im far from heartless I just see the bigger picture and wider damage being done as multi millions of others in the U.K. do

We all see the wider damage mate ,ain’t many got off Scott free but the vax may just tip the balance back in our favour .If carrying on as we are is your chosen way forward your even dimmer than I thought .

Do you think just getting back to normal is the answer and f**k those that get it and f**k the overwhelmed NHS .

Yes we should of ploughed money into the NHS years ago ,yes we should have beds for everyone but here we are having to deal with the biggest fiasco of our lifetime and your take is f**k the vaccine that may ,just may get us out the other side and to a new normal .The uncertainty we face at the moment from day to day has got to be worth having a jab in your arm for something that hasnt harmed anybody to date .

Your flintstone attitude shows a an underdeveloped brain that smacks of I’m alright Jack pull the f***ing ladder up ,a brain situation you ain’t alone in by a long way by the looks of it .Choice is one thing based on fear ,an informed choice based on having lived is another .Get yourself out hunting if indeed you do hunt cos it sharpens the desire to live not veg on a forum .

 

[shaaark 11,002]

25 minutes ago, sandymere said:

Kills a few ??? you are a heartless fella Max.

That's not what he said though.

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[socks 32,253]

No the number is likely lower as the false positive numbers are through the roof. And also people that were dying of old age  alzheimer's Cancers etc are put down as a covid death just because they died within 28 days of a positive test.   

[socks 32,253]

3 minutes ago, sid g said:

unless you die ... 

if it means having it to go abroad or get on site to do your job will you have it ....  ? 

 

Nope 

[socks 32,253]

6 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

We all see the wider damage mate ,ain’t many got off Scott free but the vax may just tip the balance back in our favour .If carrying on as we are is your chosen way forward your even dimmer than I thought .

Do you think just getting back to normal is the answer and f**k those that get it and f**k the overwhelmed NHS .

Yes we should of ploughed money into the NHS years ago ,yes we should have beds for everyone but here we are having to deal with the biggest fiasco of our lifetime and your take is f**k the vaccine that may ,just may get us out the other side and to a new normal .The uncertainty we face at the moment from day to day has got to be worth having a jab in your arm for something that hasnt harmed anybody to date .

Your flintstone attitude shows a an underdeveloped brain that smacks of I’m alright Jack pull the f***ing ladder up ,a brain situation you ain’t alone in by a long way by the looks of it .Choice is one thing based on fear ,an informed choice based on having lived is another .Get yourself out hunting if indeed you do hunt cos it sharpens the desire to live not veg on a forum .

 

You do know there’s a 98.8% survival rate don’t you. 

[Greb147 6,809]

3 minutes ago, socks said:

You do know there’s a 98.8% survival rate don’t you. 

Just over 97% in the UK. 

On that data if half the UK contracted the virus you're looking at just about a million deaths. 

 

[socks 32,253]

And what about the tens of thousands that will die of cancer due to this pandemic. 

[Greb147 6,809]

Just now, socks said:

And what about the tens of thousands that will die of cancer due to this pandemic. 

You have to think of it like this though. Those that are suffering from cancer will be more at risk of dying from covid if we don't try and get on top of it. 

[socks 32,253]

3 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

You have to think of it like this though. Those that are suffering from cancer will be more at risk of dying from covid if we don't try and get on top of it. 

No because they are dying due to not being treated for their cancer leading cancer charities have also predicted the death rate will rocket over the next three years due to the lack of cancer diagnosis over the last 12 months.