hambone 949 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, NEWKID said: Who said about vax in kids? How many have died from the vaccine, or even had a serious side affect.. are there actually any official numbers yet? What time after a positive covid test should covid not be a contributing factor, I think currently its 28 days, what should it be? As with the long term side affect to covid no one knows the long term side affect to the jab...both are only guess work (as a gambler would you back 100s of years of scientific development or 12 months of a new virus?). The NHS in a shit state?? Anyone in and out regualr can tell you of its downfalls, but credit where its due the NHS has been the main force behind the vax roll out, whether you want it or not the UK has actually delivered pretty well... Perhaps we should have a bit of national pride for once, whilst Europe is in due array the UK is leading the way..... Do not know what due array is but fk it, Like it anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,046 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: again people have posted on here about vax deaths in different countries since its roll out I've not looked for it mate, ot would be interesting to get some numbers on amount of people who have been proven to die from the jab... One of our my contacts is in Dubai, they started the roll out ages ago and ate pretty much back to normal living... probably a different culture but my last teams meeting with him he was sat in a bustling cafe having lunch with one of our fitters and cracking on... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,046 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: We still have dirty hospitals with waiting lists a Mile long and scans ect for cancers not happening . Staff are doing their best but that don’t mean the organisation is doing a good job or funded right ect The middle management in the NHS has been shite in fact a scam for longer than I can remember.... it isn't the money spent on it it is the waste.... you know I've said time and again that it is a post code lottery and at times a poor service...this has probably accentuated the problem... But compared to Europe our NHS and government have led the way with vaccines...whether you agree with the vaccine or not, that's a fact 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hambone 949 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: We still have dirty hospitals with waiting lists a Mile long and scans ect for cancers not happening . Staff are doing their best but that don’t mean the organisation is doing a good job or funded right ect Max.....The NHS is massively top heavy and overloaded with managers not workers. That is the nature of public sector work and why it is such a burden on the country. Dare not mention the massive demand from immigration and population explosion of non tax payers. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,046 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, hambone said: Do not know what due array is but fk it, Like it anyway. Nor do I..... I'm on the phone and its done some predictive text....don't know what it was but I meant... A right f***ing mess!! Lol Link to post Share on other sites
hambone 949 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, maxhardcore said: said it before at least bring in a standard fine of £50 for not turning up for a doctors or hospital appointment . No further treatment till fine paid . You see it all the time 453 non attendees in the month of June ect These are little village doctors surgeries or every appointment ward in the very department of every hospital up and down the country. Its a total Liberty and piss take Much as id like to disagree with you as your generally full of shite this time your right. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,497 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 22 minutes ago, walshie said: Well I don't know about anyone else, but I'm still undecided.... I've been offered it with being a geriatric but I refused it cos I'm f****d if I can make my mind up perhaps a few more pages of this topic and mad maxes input will help me decide until then I will sit on the fence wi charts 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Meece 1,957 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, walshie said: Well I don't know about anyone else, but I'm still undecided.... What.; after 300 pages of mainly waffle and nonsense going round like a merry go round. Put the handbrake on this thread and reset the frame. Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,046 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: same in AUZ and many other SE Asian and Oceanic Country’s . Personaly I think U.K. and USA got hit hard due to maybe letting the horse bolt before trying to close the door and cross contamination in hospitals and nursing homes . But more so because we are a nation of fast food lovers eating shite and overweight and unfit . Plus the real pandemic of sniffing ones brains out can’t be good for the immune system or short or long term health of anyone . Every country has dealt with it differently mate... but those countries that were quite extreme from the off seem to be getting back quicker, Australias hard laws on border control has probably been a big factor.... even now you escorted to a hotel for a couple of weeks on arrival until you are clear... its almost inevitable that judging by how these countries have reached right from the off a vaccine will be required to enter in the future... the hard lock downs in the far east look to have worked... We spent too long watching it unfold in Italy, Spain etc and not closing down straight away.. we're an island ffs...it was a big decision but always seemed like the most sensible.. the weigh off of economy against health backfired...and we are a long way behind some countries... Our closest neighbours in Europe however are in a far shitter place... Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,046 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: said it before at least bring in a standard fine of £50 for not turning up for a doctors or hospital appointment . No further treatment till fine paid . You see it all the time 453 non attendees in the month of June ect These are little village doctors surgeries or every appointment ward in the very department of every hospital up and down the country. Its a total Liberty and piss take 100% agree Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,046 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Meece said: What.; after 300 pages of mainly waffle and nonsense going round like a merry go round. Put the handbrake on this thread and reset the frame. If people can debate, discuss, without calling each other out if you disagree, these threads are alright....no different to the yaps we are all having everyday in the real world... There is no right or wrong to this one mate... its personal choice and interesting to know why those decisions are made 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hambone 949 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, NEWKID said: If people can debate, discuss, without calling each other out if you disagree, these threads are alright....no different to the yaps we are all having everyday in the real world... There is no right or wrong to this one mate... its personal choice and interesting to know why those decisions are made Apart from the fact that we cant have them in the real world Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,046 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, iworkwhippets said: I've been offered it with being a geriatric but I refused it cos I'm f****d if I can make my mind up perhaps a few more pages of this topic and mad maxes input will help me decide until then I will sit on the fence wi charts Truth be known...we're all on the fence Keith. None of us no f**k all about the virus... yet ..and none of us know f**k all about the jab...yet... I'm not bothered about the big pharms getting richer or the inner workings of the worlds elite.... Id like to travel again, I'd like to sit with people and interact normally, I'd like to go into a pub and stand at the bar with a couple of lads and yap shit... I believe that modern science and medical research is so far advanced that we have no idea what medicines or vaccines we are having, f**k I can't pronounce half of them!! Lol but we believe in them 99% of the time.... Does that mean I'm not on the fence...unfortunately not....lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,028 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, iworkwhippets said: I've been offered it with being a geriatric but I refused it cos I'm f****d if I can make my mind up perhaps a few more pages of this topic and mad maxes input will help me decide until then I will sit on the fence wi charts Keith and I pondering wether to have the vax or not; Cheers. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,046 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, hambone said: Apart from the fact that we cant have them in the real world ... yeah I know.... I do remember last summer all sitting around the fire and yapping about a lot of things like this....don't remember anyone calling each other c**ts for differing views....that only on the Internet...lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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