Greyman 27,969 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Greb147 said: So it basically comes down to "I'm alright Jack" once again. None of us will take it as serious as maybe we should because it's not affected us as of yet and touch wood never will. I don't know why this topic is still carrying on tbh, folk will either have the vaccine or they won't, it's their choice for now. That’s probably more to do with the simple fact that the 0.2 percent of fatality’s will be people like my mum who sits in a room having her arse wiped waiting for socks to arrive wearing his robe,, so in truth I will not be sad or change my views if she does get it and go on it will be a blessing Edited January 12, 2021 by Greyman Link to post Share on other sites
Lost Generation 93 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, maxhardcore said: The information sources say it’s not killing kids SO WHY Vaccinate them None of the vaccines are licenced for use in children yet and there are no plans to vaccinate kids. I know that vaccine companies are planning trials in children but as far as I am aware none are up and running yet and they will take quite a few months to complete & analyse. Some children have got very ill and died from Covid but the best reason for vaccinating children would be to help achieve herd immunity by eliminating a large pool of infection which can be transmitted to others who are potentially more vulnerable. We vaccinate children and adults against a lot of diseases for exactly this reason. Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 27,969 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Lost Generation said: None of the vaccines are licenced for use in children yet and there are no plans to vaccinate kids. I know that vaccine companies are planning trials in children but as far as I am aware none are up and running yet and they will take quite a few months to complete & analyse. Some children have got very ill and died from Covid but the best reason for vaccinating children would be to help achieve herd immunity by eliminating a large pool of infection which can be transmitted to others who are potentially more vulnerable. We vaccinate children and adults against a lot of diseases for exactly this reason. With vaccines that have undergone years of trials for diseases that have a much higher fatality rate than 0,2% wtf is so hard for all you super intelligent vax fans to grasp, 1 Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,693 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Greb147 said: folk will either have the vaccine or they won't, it's their choice for now. BOOM!! Again Yeah? Lol Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 hours ago, maxhardcore said: You could of volenteered for the early trials Worked every f cking day through this Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,204 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 Reports of close to 697,000 deaths registered in 2020, versus an average of 606,000 each year from 2015-2019. Around 93k death certs with Covid identified as a contributing factor. For the avoidance of doubt, that’s tens of thousands of people dead, who wouldn’t otherwise have died. Hundreds of honest to goodness healthcare professionals working at the sharp end, at their wits end, pleading for the public to take this seriously, but still plenty about who are sceptical of the damage this virus is doing. As for the vaccine, imo this will be looked upon as one of mankind’s greatest achievements. It’s potentially going to be a lifesaver for tens, even hundreds millions of people susceptible to dying of this thing worldwide. If you don’t want the vaccine, don’t take it, no-one will or should be forced to have it. If you are offered it and refuse, and subsequently wind up in hospital for treatment after catching it, I’d make you pay for the treatment. Some of the p!sh written on this thread is fcukin lamentable. Noted that a lot of it written imo by the more gullible and deluded members on here. Spouting baseless bits of half information gleaned from Facebook or some clickbait experts on Youtube no doubt. I’ll be taking my advice from the people who actually stuck in at school, spent years studying infectious diseases, and are at the forefront of the battle against this nightmare. As for the flat-earthers taking to the streets to protest against lockdown and vaccines, I’d tear gas every last one of the cnuts. 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: If the NHS was fit for purpose we’d be ins much better place . Lets see if this Gov and all those that follow make sure it is fit for purpose so this type of scenario can never happen again If there wasn't so many taking out that's put fxckall in that would be a start 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,204 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: If the NHS was fit for purpose we’d be ins much better place . Lets see if this Gov and all those that follow make sure it is fit for purpose so this type of scenario can never happen again There’s not a health service or country in the world was prepared for this. Are you suggesting we should have been spending billions extra, year on year, for extra doctors, nurses and the equipment needed to fight this pandemic on the off chance it happened? If so then you’re more stupid than I realised. 20:20 hindsight is a marvellous gift to have is it not. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 What sort of vaccine is it that won't stop you getting the virus, won't stop you passing it on, you still have to wear a mask, still have to stay in and still have to socially distance when you do go out? Can't see any upside to it. Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Greyman said: Mate the shit people are spouting is incredible, my daughter is a school teacher who has worked everyday through every lockdown either taking care of frontline workers kids or raising money and delivering food hampers to the poor and vulnerable on an estate in Bristol that was on the news recently as the worse place for coved in the country and has been told that she is 2 years away from being offered the vaccine, My mother is 82 and in a care home we’re we are being told the inmates and staff will be priority, reality still waiting and still not had a visit since March, the figures will go up as the testing goes up but if it was that bad you would think people would be queuing down the street as sandy and dandy are claiming, but this is a photo from my local testing station and I can take you another one like it at anytime of the day, the white van and car are what the tester drive and the other two are waiting for results only que is at 945 am just before the gates are open but it clears in minutes and never reappears, looks like a right old pandemic going on not Greyman you talk alot of sense my mother is cared for at home haven't seen her for nearly a year our lass is a TA her dad's 91 he still gets about I take him for a drink on a Sunday afternoon when the pubs are open. the first lock down 2 kids in her class this lock down the teacher was phoning round parents to send their kids in 18 now so if having the jab makes it back to something like normal f cking jab me Edited January 12, 2021 by twobob 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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socks 32,253 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, walshie said: What sort of vaccine is it that won't stop you getting the virus, won't stop you passing it on, you still have to wear a mask, still have to stay in and still have to socially distance when you do go out? Can't see any upside to it. Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 27,969 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, walshie said: What sort of vaccine is it that won't stop you getting the virus, won't stop you passing it on, you still have to wear a mask, still have to stay in and still have to socially distance when you do go out? Can't see any upside to it. The problem with that statement it’s full of facts and common sense, I,m sure someone will be along soon enough to stick an 18 page link to a piece of scientific paper that will make you realise you are just a non compliant anti vaxer and of a much lower iq than themselves 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,693 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, walshie said: What sort of vaccine is it that won't stop you getting the virus, won't stop you passing it on, you still have to wear a mask, still have to stay in and still have to socially distance when you do go out? Can't see any upside to it. Doesn't make any sense, does it?! Rhetorical question 1 Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, walshie said: What sort of vaccine is it that won't stop you getting the virus, won't stop you passing it on, you still have to wear a mask, still have to stay in and still have to socially distance when you do go out? Can't see any upside to it. What do you know ye won a be sheep shagger 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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