Chaff 3,622 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just heard this The Anomaly in weekly deaths that has been swept under the carpet. 14,440 excess lives were lost during lockdown 1 and they did not, i repeat did not die of Covid! Link to post Share on other sites
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Chaff 3,622 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Thought this was a good one Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,747 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Chaff said: Thought this was a good one Now, I'm not after an argument with anyone, or doubting the data, but that graph is a little misleading. It shows the number of deaths in ascending order, but if you put it in chronological order, there's a definite spike in 2020, compared with 2017/18/19. Yes, the deaths were higher in the nineties and noughties, I have no explanation for that. Cheers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, Chaff said: Just heard this The Anomaly in weekly deaths that has been swept under the carpet. 14,440 excess lives were lost during lockdown 1 and they did not, i repeat did not die of Covid! Correct, but I don’t think it’s been swept under the carpet. I mean anyone paying attention saw it. We were talking about ten thousand non covid surplus deaths back in summer on the other thread. Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Now, I'm not after an argument with anyone, or doubting the data, but that graph is a little misleading. It shows the number of deaths in ascending order, but if you put it in chronological order, there's a definite spike in 2020, compared with 2017/18/19. Yes, the deaths were higher in the nineties and noughties, I have no explanation for that. Cheers. Lies, damned lies and.... Im with you this time on it! Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,747 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Lies, damned lies and.... Im with you this time on it! By manipulating the x and y axis you can make graphs look vastly different, while using the exact same data. Cheers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Chaff 3,622 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, chartpolski said: By manipulating the x and y axis you can make graphs look vastly different, while using the exact same data. Cheers. Just like whitty and vallance then lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Chaff 3,622 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 How about this one of Joel Smalleys Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,658 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Greyman said: Well apparently MC hull died of it in 2018, so maybe he could help out in your search or throw some light on your mystery You get flu but will die off pneumonia or bronchitis same as you will get corvid but die of pneumonia the stats will say you died of pneumonia because you dont get tested for flu when you go in dying of pneumonia same happens with corvid go in bad chest die of pneumonia but they test say you had corvid your death goes to corvid stat not really level playing field is it Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, mC HULL said: You get flu but will die off pneumonia or bronchitis same as you will get corvid but die of pneumonia the stats will say you died of pneumonia because you dont get tested for flu when you go in dying of pneumonia same happens with corvid go in bad chest die of pneumonia but they test say you had corvid your death goes to corvid stat not really level playing field is it What you're failing to point out though is that many would never have got pneumonia had they not contracted the virus. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,658 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just now, Greb147 said: What you're failing to point out though is that many would never have got pneumonia had they not contracted the virus. Not that many each year would die off pneumonia if it wasn’t for the flu so why put it down to corvid but not flu when both cause pneumonia Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,816 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Born Hunter said: et al. Et al? ET f***ing AL?!! Talk to your masses b h, don't confuse them with your university degree head on ffs. ET f***ing AL!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,922 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 So are you getting the vaccine born? Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Not that many each year would die off pneumonia if it wasn’t for the flu so why put it down to corvid but not flu when both cause pneumonia That's a fair point but the flu is still quite serious, it's just that Covid-19 is even more serious. Link to post Share on other sites
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