Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Total deaths to date for this year compared with the last five years. 2020 542,463 113% 2019 474,813 99% 2018 490,223 102% 2017 479,585 100% 2016 472,783 99% 2015 481,708 100% Avg. 479,822 100% To date the mortality rate is 13% higher than the five previous years averaged. 11% higher than 2018. Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just now, mC HULL said: Incorrect for 9 months if you tested positive for corvid with in the last month and you died it got recorded as corvid fact So? LOL. If you died with another condition BOTH would be stated. I've read the f***ing death certificates. LOL Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,686 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just now, Born Hunter said: So? LOL. If you died with another condition BOTH would be stated. I've read the f***ing death certificates. LOL ok what does the death stats your reading say is it still recorded as corvid or pneumonia Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,686 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Correct if you tested positive within a month of dying the stats get another corvid death Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just now, mC HULL said: ok what does the death stats your reading say is it still recorded as corvid or pneumonia Doctors list all the diseases they believe are factors in death. If someone has pneumonia and dies it sure as shit will be referenced on the death certificate. Death certs don't just list one thing, unless only one thing is relevant. This is really neither here nor there. You seemed to claim that this year is no different to previous years when the total deaths quite clearly show that this year stands out significantly. Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just now, mC HULL said: Correct if you tested positive within a month of dying the stats get another corvid death Yep, and if pneumonia was a comorbidity then the pneumonia stats get another too! Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,686 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 What I’m saying is the stats get another corvid death even though pneumonia killed them Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,686 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Total deaths to date for this year compared with the last five years. 2020 542,463 113% 2019 474,813 99% 2018 490,223 102% 2017 479,585 100% 2016 472,783 99% 2015 481,708 100% Avg. 479,822 100% To date the mortality rate is 13% higher than the five previous years averaged. 11% higher than 2018. We’re you got this from gov site for 2018 546000 put in google deaths uk 2018 go on gov site Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,686 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Yep, and if pneumonia was a comorbidity then the pneumonia stats get another too! That’s ok is it but the 50000 plus that died in 2018 cold winter with flu aren’t classed as pneumonia and flu idiot Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just now, mC HULL said: What I’m saying is the stats get another corvid death even though pneumonia killed them Yes I know. There's nothing wrong with that because doctors can't be sure pneumonia was 100% responsible for their death. They list all comorbidities because they need to know how they interact with each other. If COVID worsens pneumonia but COVID is never mentioned if pneumonia is present too then we can never learn this. You have to look at the spectrum of evidence. That includes surplus deaths and increases in deaths attributed to other things like pneumonia which might be caused by COVID as a comorbidity. Everything needs to be listed! Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,686 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 I had the flu 2018 died a pneumonia the flu stats didn’t get a death just pneumonia with corvid stats you die twice corvid get one pneumonia gets one lol Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, mC HULL said: We’re you got this from gov site for 2018 546000 put in google deaths uk 2018 go on gov site Directly from the ONS. I only counted the previous years deaths up to the same week that 2020 has been published to. It's not a fair to compare a years worth of deaths for other years with only 11 months of deaths from 2020. Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,686 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Why before wasn’t flu classed as comoebility looks to me like this year flu deaths are getting put on stats for first year and called corvid lol Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: I had the flu 2018 died a pneumonia the flu stats didn’t get a death just pneumonia with corvid stats you die twice corvid get one pneumonia gets one lol If you died in 2018 then I'm f***ing scared now! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,686 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Max is right you need to go for mp your great at spouting nonsense and skirting round questions lol I’d vote for you would you bring back hunting with dogs Link to post Share on other sites
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