riohog 5,708 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, shaaark said: See the post above mate. My mrs is expecting our new baby in april. She won't be having the covid vaccine. It's been tested on 20000 people, out of close to 68000000. That's just under 0.03 percent of the uk population. I consider that simply not a good enough, scientific conclusion. i understand your concerns 1 Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,001 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Well my old mum is 89 and she has said she is having it. She has a heart condition and we ain’t seen her for 10 months ! At least we can travel to see her and not worry we are going to kill her. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Chaff 3,622 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Statistics say covid sits at 24 in the what's going to kill you charts. No1 position is heart desease Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,001 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Chaff said: Statistics say covid sits at 24 in the what's going to kill you charts. No1 position is heart desease Don’t doubt that for a second mate but there’s not point in adding insult to injury and finishing the old girl off. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,837 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 On 02/12/2020 at 11:28, Born Hunter said: I'll likely be one who gets vaccinated eventually but any f***ing card will go straight in the bin. At this point I don't believe it'll impact anything other than border control. surely having an id card is only the same as carrying a driving licence Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,816 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, TOMO said: bollocks to the vaccine. My mrs already calls me a gorilla lol. Edited December 3, 2020 by shaaark Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 34 minutes ago, greg64 said: surely having an id card is only the same as carrying a driving licence Yeah, I guess. I'm just not sure I'm comfortable with a free country allowing it's citizens to be discriminated on based on their healthcare choices. I'd say I consider that one of our rights but I'm not totally firm on that yet. I simply don't want to support that way of thinking by towing the line because it suits me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,708 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Yeah, I guess. I'm just not sure I'm comfortable with a free country allowing it's citizens to be discriminated on based on their healthcare choices. I'd say I consider that one of our rights but I'm not totally firm on that yet. I simply don't want to support that way of thinking by towing the line because it suits me. not sure about the id card thing ,unless its for foreghn travell . but healthcare choices hmmm in the case of travel if it neccessary to enter a country well the choice is simple comply or you aint going to enter , sorry if ive miss read were your coming from but i dont see a big problem here . 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, riohog said: not sure about the id card thing ,unless its for foreghn travell . but healthcare choices hmmm in the case of travel if it neccessary to enter a country well the choice is simple comply or you aint going to enter , sorry if ive miss read were your coming from but i dont see a big problem here . No totally agree mate. I don't and never have extended the full rights and freedoms of citizenship to foreigners. I totally agree that visitors are held to different standards than citizens and if they have an issue with that then they are free to not enter our country. There are times and circumstances which warrant treating visitors the same as citizens of course but there are times not to. Like for instance free healthcare. Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,708 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: No totally agree mate. I don't and never have extended the full rights and freedoms of citizenship to foreigners. I totally agree that visitors are held to different standards than citizens and if they have an issue with that then they are free to not enter our country. There are times and circumstances which warrant treating visitors the same as citizens of course but there are times not to. Like for instance free healthcare. yes im not happy that some come just for that , same applies no money no entry i had a fk off big stamp on a passport years ago toegang geltveld no money no entry that was in holland ,im not winging about it i was trying my luck at the time . Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,222 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Born Hunter said: I went last night and I was chronically unfit and slept like the dead last night! f***ing puff ..... Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,494 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, greg64 said: surely having an id card is only the same as carrying a driving licence Oh f**k don’t have one of them either, looks like being captain of my own ship is a good move ️️ Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,222 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, Greyman said: Oh f**k don’t have one of them either, looks like being captain of my own ship is a good move ️️ LOL....yeh only posh kids had a driving licence when i first learnt to drive.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, maxhardcore said: You can dress it up all you want Why didn’t you volunteer for the trials few months ago . Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, TOMO said: f***ing puff ..... Mean Link to post Share on other sites
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