He is shaking the hand of god

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8 minutes ago, WILF said:

He had to pack up because of a thyroid condition, it first got diagnosed in the medical for Real Madrid or maybe it was as late as Milan.

His knee healed up, but he took such a kicking that it was bound to have had an effect.

Funny, I’m chatting about Ronaldo and sat watching Dundalk v Athlone Town.....it’s 6-0 at half time to Dundalk !

Athlone are managed by the local FAI bloke, it’s f***ing terrible.....I have genuinely seen better Sunday football !

That's my families town, Dundalk, mate....last time I was there I was carrying my grandads coffin... Blackrock to be precise, about 3 miles outside....Dundalk was a rough old place when I was a young English lad out in the pubs ..some good times.. 

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I kind of remember ronaldo crying at his retiremrnt press conference . Or i remember at least reading about it. I remember the quote "my mind is still sharp , it can make spilt decisions but my body doesnt follow them"

Also read he was "fat" because of medication or illness of some kind , and the cure to it was a medication that was prohibited in football 

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7 minutes ago, Welsh_red said:

I kind of remember ronaldo crying at his retiremrnt press conference . Or i remember at least reading about it. I remember the quote "my mind is still sharp , it can make spilt decisions but my body doesnt follow them"

Also read he was "fat" because of medication or illness of some kind , and the cure to it was a medication that was prohibited in football 

Like Wilf said mate, it was a thyroid condition, he bloated because of it... some of his knee injuries were terrible as well...

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55 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

That's my families town, Dundalk, mate....last time I was there I was carrying my grandads coffin... Blackrock to be precise, about 3 miles outside....Dundalk was a rough old place when I was a young English lad out in the pubs ..some good times.. 

Finished up at 11-0 mate !!

Thats the quality of the game in Ireland !

(I think that was the FAI semi final by the way ! Lol ) 

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4 minutes ago, WILF said:

Finished up at 11-0 mate !!

Thats the quality of the game in Ireland !

(I think that was the FAI semi final by the way ! Lol ) 

Mental, was talking about how shit the Sunday morning league is round here now, used to be a tough league 20 years ago, last game I played as a ringer for a side, we won 14-0, it was terrible, like they had never played football before....that was Sundays finished for me....couldn't imagine those sort of scorelines in proper football, so that must be shit mate...lol

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30 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

Mental, was talking about how shit the Sunday morning league is round here now, used to be a tough league 20 years ago, last game I played as a ringer for a side, we won 14-0, it was terrible, like they had never played football before....that was Sundays finished for me....couldn't imagine those sort of scorelines in proper football, so that must be shit mate...lol

Yeah, standards are dropping mate.

Our old Sunday league when I played had something like 10 divisions of 15-18 teams !!

It was the biggest Sunday league in the country at one point I think!

Obviously a mixture but there were some really decent teams and players amongst that lot, it was great 

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1 minute ago, WILF said:

Yeah, standards are dropping mate.

Our old Sunday league when I played had something like 10 divisions of 15-18 teams !!

It was the biggest Sunday league in the country at one point I think!

Obviously a mixture but there were some really decent teams and players amongst that lot, it was great 

Saturday afternoon football was and still is the good standard around here, Sunday mornings back then was tough as it was most of the players from Saturday afternoon leagues still half cut and kicking lumps out of each other..lol

Was it the same up yours, or was Sundays the better standard?

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9 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

Saturday afternoon football was and still is the good standard around here, Sunday mornings back then was tough as it was most of the players from Saturday afternoon leagues still half cut and kicking lumps out of each other..lol

Was it the same up yours, or was Sundays the better standard?

Same as that mate, Saturday football was the better standard.

 

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Just now, sid g said:

i remember our first game in snr football  they put us in div 5 the lowest entry level for what was the midland amateur alliance  we played a team called brunts old boys 3.... we beat them 26 nil won the league by a mile and the league cup i was gutted the standard was so bad 

Its not enjoyable to play in games like that mate, I remember you saying before you went up through the lower leagues with a good side, its good the lads kept at it for those first couple of years, it must've been hard to stay motivated.

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On 26/11/2020 at 15:18, chartpolski said:

 

Collina ?

Cheers.

 

Thats the one 

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On 28/11/2020 at 20:21, Greb147 said:

Spot on pal, to compare him with today's players is not possible tbh. 

Like you said, watching him evade leg crunching tackles and out muscle much bigger players was a sight to behold. 

He was as strong as an ox and yet was so fluid and balanced, above all that he had immense passion and charisma. 

You have to remember, he was that amazing despite abusing his body and health for most of his career! 

If i didnt know better id swear some old boy in his 80's was sitting describing Georgie Best......i must have heard that type of description about him a million times even to this day.

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23 hours ago, WILF said:

You are entitled to think he was the best mate, no problem with that at all.

All I was saying is that I don’t think so and giving reasons why

But, talking of Ronaldo, if we are making comparisons Maradonas honours would fit in a match box but you’d need an articulated truck for Ronaldo  

I always think such debates are difficult to judge....to me Georgie Best looks like the greatest footballer who ever lived ( from a highlight reel ) but i dont know what he was like or how he effected a game during a long period with his sides back to the wall as i never saw him play a full game.....its so easy to say yeah Maradona was the best,Pele was the best....some people swear by Cruyff or Eusebio etc but if you havent seen them either play live or at least play plenty of full games how can you judge.....i always say Ronaldo is the best player ive ever seen play live and thats because i remember seeing the impact he had on shit,boring nothing games where things didnt go his way you cant read about players or watch clips and decide who is best based on that in my opinion.

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8 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

I always think such debates are difficult to judge....to me Georgie Best looks like the greatest footballer who ever lived ( from a highlight reel ) but i dont know what he was like or how he effected a game during a long period with his sides back to the wall as i never saw him play a full game.....its so easy to say yeah Maradona was the best,Pele was the best....some people swear by Cruyff or Eusebio etc but if you havent seen them either play live or at least play plenty of full games how can you judge.....i always say Ronaldo is the best player ive ever seen play live and thats because i remember seeing the impact he had on shit,boring nothing games where things didnt go his way you cant read about players or watch clips and decide who is best based on that in my opinion.

That’s true mate, and it’s also a positional thing too.

Its like the Christiano Ronaldo and Messi debate, different players, different positions and different styles.....you cant make that judgement imho

All you can do is have a look at a player at the end of his career, do the maths and think about his overall impacts on his team or teams and the game in general.

Paulo Maldini got mentioned, played all his career for his club, won everything, won his last champions league medal at 40 ! and is also a player you would show young defenders if you were trying to teach them how to go to work and look after themselves.......that’s a great player imho 

Edited November 30, 2020 by WILF

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1 hour ago, WILF said:

That’s true mate, and it’s also a positional thing too.

Its like the Christiano Ronaldo and Messi debate, different players, different positions and different styles.....you cant make that judgement imho

All you can do is have a look at a player at the end of his career, do the maths and think about his overall impacts on his team or teams and the game in general.

Paulo Maldini got mentioned, played all his career for his club, won everything, won his last champions league medal at 40 ! and is also a player you would show young defenders if you were trying to teach them how to go to work and look after themselves.......that’s a great player imho 

Yep i think its like anything its easy to get " your best " and " your favourite " mixed up as the same thing i mean i think Bobby Moore would of had Messi and Ronaldo sewn up....if Pele said he,s the best thats good enough for me