He is shaking the hand of god

[NEWKID 27,806]

39 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion but stats and honours don't tell the full story, you need a bit of context to digest IMO. 

I agree to a point mate, but original Ronaldo was something else, he really was the perfect centre forward, there was simply nothing he couldn't do...and his goal scoring record in the top league, Spain snd Italy, is staggering... even after horrific injuries he kept coming back and smashing records... 

Its so tough to call best ever, pretty much impossible, as we don't look at defenders or goal keepers...but id pick a fit Ronaldo as pretty damn close to best ever...lol

[Greb147 6,809]

2 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

I agree to a point mate, but original Ronaldo was something else, he really was the perfect centre forward, there was simply nothing he couldn't do...and his goal scoring record in the top league, Spain snd Italy, is staggering... even after horrific injuries he kept coming back and smashing records... 

Its so tough to call best ever, pretty much impossible, as we don't look at defenders or goal keepers...but id pick a fit Ronaldo as pretty damn close to best ever...lol

No doubt he was one of the best ever but he was always in the best teams and never did what Maradona did at Napoli, it's splitting hairs really and impossible to judge in all honesty. 

[WILF 48,384]

9 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

No doubt he was one of the best ever but he was always in the best teams and never did what Maradona did at Napoli, it's splitting hairs really and impossible to judge in all honesty. 

Completely irrelevant to this conversation really mate but it tends to be that the best players play for the best teams, they have to earn their place amongst other players who are the best in the world.

The mark of a great player is that they can do it time and time again in the very best teams the world has to offer......they don’t just do it once, they do it 4,5,6 times.

Thats a great player imho

[Greb147 6,809]

23 minutes ago, WILF said:

Completely irrelevant to this conversation really mate but it tends to be that the best players play for the best teams, they have to earn their place amongst other players who are the best in the world.

The mark of a great player is that they can do it time and time again in the very best teams the world has to offer......they don’t just do it once, they do it 4,5,6 times.

Thats a great player imho

He did something better than that though. 

He took a struggling team in arguably the toughest league in the world at that time and made them champions for the first time in the clubs history. To top that off they also won the UEFA with Napoli, an achievement never seen before or after. 

He also took an average Argentina side and made them champions of the word, what other players have done that? 

Edited November 29, 2020 by Greb147

[WILF 48,384]

11 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

He did something better than that though. 

He took a struggling team in arguably the toughest league in the world at that time and made them champions for the first time in the clubs history. To top that off they also won the UEFA with Napoli, an achievement never seen before or after. 

He also took an average Argentina side and made them champions of the word, what other players have done that? 

Don’t get me wrong I love what he did at Napoli, stuff like that is absolutely up my street......football folklore.

 

[pesky1972 5,526]

The debate about the GOAT will never be settled, or ever end. And it’s impossible to compare eras. No doubt that Maradona was a great player, but tragic to me that he never fulfilled his potential. His generation weren’t looked after the way players are nowadays, as the maybe weren’t seen as the financial assets they are now. Never mind the sports science, nutrition etc., imagine if he’d even been managed and looked after the way Messi will have. Or the likes of George Best given the same hospitality and mentoring as the likes of CR7 would have arriving in Manchester. The game was very different then too, especially in the latin leagues he played in, some right dirty b*****ds there, probably worse than you’d have seen in the old div.1. To me he belongs in a select group of players who got me on the edge of my seat when he got on the ball, and had a grace and balance I don’t think I’ve seen matched. For what it’s worth, Messi is my GOAT..., but I’ll always wonder what Diego could have been if he’d been playing in today’s game.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,492]

"The way he combined powerhouse athleticism with a poetic touch made for an awesome sight. In the 1990s, in his physical pomp, in his free-flowing prime, there was nothing remotely like him. By the time the 1998 World Cup came along his reputation had extended to the point of fully formed marvel. A happening."
 

one description of ronaldo . 
 

 

[NEWKID 27,806]

Just now, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

"The way he combined powerhouse athleticism with a poetic touch made for an awesome sight. In the 1990s, in his physical pomp, in his free-flowing prime, there was nothing remotely like him. By the time the 1998 World Cup came along his reputation had extended to the point of fully formed marvel. A happening."
 

one description of ronaldo . 
 

 

He was out of this world mate...just injuries plagued him, even so his record is amazing..

[chartpolski 25,792]

Watching a programme about Maradonna just now, and an Argentine player got sent off for "violence of the tongue " !

Never heard that one before ! !

Cheers.

[Blackmag 6,179]

I know it's normally attacking players that talked about mainly in greatest of all time but what about players like maldini beckerbaur kolher puyol briase ramos that were a back bone for club and country that have all won aload of trophies 

[NEWKID 27,806]

6 minutes ago, Blackmag said:

I know it's normally attacking players that talked about mainly in greatest of all time but what about players like maldini beckerbaur kolher puyol briase ramos that were a back bone for club and country that have all won aload of trophies 

Maldini what a player..

[Welsh_red 4,834]

42 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

"The way he combined powerhouse athleticism with a poetic touch made for an awesome sight. In the 1990s, in his physical pomp, in his free-flowing prime, there was nothing remotely like him. By the time the 1998 World Cup came along his reputation had extended to the point of fully formed marvel. A happening."
 

one description of ronaldo . 
 

 

Something not nice about that 98 final . He had a "episode" before kick off and i think they sort of railroaded him on to the pitch and he wasnt the same

If my memory serves me right anyway 

[NEWKID 27,806]

11 minutes ago, Welsh_red said:

Something not nice about that 98 final . He had a "episode" before kick off and i think they sort of railroaded him on to the pitch and he wasnt the same

If my memory serves me right anyway 

You're right mate, I think they had an ambulance out for him, he collapsed or something?

He shouldn't have played, but they obviously thought a half f****d Ronaldo was better than no Ronaldo...

[WILF 48,384]

He had to pack up because of a thyroid condition, it first got diagnosed in the medical for Real Madrid or maybe it was as late as Milan.

His knee healed up, but he took such a kicking that it was bound to have had an effect.

Funny, I’m chatting about Ronaldo and sat watching Dundalk v Athlone Town.....it’s 6-0 at half time to Dundalk !

Athlone are managed by the local FAI bloke, it’s f***ing terrible.....I have genuinely seen better Sunday football !

[NEWKID 27,806]

35 minutes ago, sid g said:

he had a convulsion / fit  they say it was bought on by nerves happened to him twice  he had tests that were clear and freed him to play

Yeah thats it mate ... I'm sure they called an ambulance for him..