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1 hour ago, Shadow100 said:

I don’t know if you’re on about me or not, but I’m not crying or jealous about anything. I don’t want permission to run my dogs, I’ve never had any, I just go where I want and that’s the way I like it. I don’t need to phone ahead and check if I’m alright to go on, or if there’s any bits I need to keep away from, or ask what I can and can’t run.

I don’t damage or steal anything so I’d say I’m respectful in that sense but that’s as far as it goes with me, where wild animals are concerned I don’t see them as anyone’s property, so no permission needed. 

If you feel the need to ask first that’s fair enough, you do things your own way but don’t think you’re more intelligent than lads that go about things differently, it takes a smart man to go all over the country where he’s not meant to be and not end up in court. 

That’s what rubs people up the wrong way with the permission boys they get a superiority complex as soon as they’re given a few fields to walk as if they’re above your average dog man. 

Support your keepers, stalkers, shooters all you want, but rest assured if they were given the option to throw you under the bus to save themselves and their sport they wouldn’t even think twice about it. 

Not aimed at you fella ?and I, in no way think I'm above any other dog lads... Point I was making is that we should stick together instead of slagging off other country folk and their choices?

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1 minute ago, Daniel cain said:

Not aimed at you fella ?and I, in no way think I'm above any other dog lads... Point I was making is that we should stick together instead of slagging off other country folk and their choices?

What about the other country folk killing hares so lads can’t run them say it as it is you teach you young daughter to share not take all the toys so no one else can play then you have grown men going out there way to shoot hares so lads can’t have a run lol 

then they stand there with land owner mates gloating lol when in reality a 8 year old can do what they do it’s easier than easy lol

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1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

What about the other country folk killing hares so lads can’t run them say it as it is you teach you young daughter to share not take all the toys so no one else can play then you have grown men going out there way to shoot hares so lads can’t have a run lol 

then they stand there with land owner mates gloating lol when in reality a 8 year old can do what they do it’s easier than easy lol

Not something I agree with... But then again I've never had an interest in running them personally ?

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Pull up in distance crack infra red on pull trigger as many times it takes to hit it drive to next field 

I go out shooting maybe 3 times a year and I feel guilty the real shooters are lads with air guns stalking getting right place using land I have loads a respect for these lads the rifleman with infra red are clowns 

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1 hour ago, Shadow100 said:

I don’t know if you’re on about me or not, but I’m not crying or jealous about anything. I don’t want permission to run my dogs, I’ve never had any, I just go where I want and that’s the way I like it. I don’t need to phone ahead and check if I’m alright to go on, or if there’s any bits I need to keep away from, or ask what I can and can’t run.

I don’t damage or steal anything so I’d say I’m respectful in that sense but that’s as far as it goes with me, where wild animals are concerned I don’t see them as anyone’s property, so no permission needed. 

If you feel the need to ask first that’s fair enough, you do things your own way but don’t think you’re more intelligent than lads that go about things differently, it takes a smart man to go all over the country where he’s not meant to be and not end up in court. 

That’s what rubs people up the wrong way with the permission boys they get a superiority complex as soon as they’re given a few fields to walk as if they’re above your average dog man. 

Support your keepers, stalkers, shooters all you want, but rest assured if they were given the option to throw you under the bus to save themselves and their sport they wouldn’t even think twice about it. 

Does sound a bit like you’re the one with a superiority complex mate. Or a chip on your shoulder. You seem to view the whole world as if it’s neatly split into two camps. Not meant as a dig, but life just isn’t like that. 

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7 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

What about the other country folk killing hares so lads can’t run them say it as it is you teach you young daughter to share not take all the toys so no one else can play then you have grown men going out there way to shoot hares so lads can’t have a run lol 

then they stand there with land owner mates gloating lol when in reality a 8 year old can do what they do it’s easier than easy lol

Do they really do it just so lads can’t have a run? Honest answer, is that why you think the shoot the hares ? 

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1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

Your gunna tell me it’s because hare  coursers steal stuff lol

No I’m not. But I happen to live somewhere there are thousands of hares, and to be honest a lot of the lads who come out after them are a pain in the hole, in a major way!  They cause lots of damage and waste a lot of folks time and I can understand why some folk just want rid of the problem. I personally hate the idea of hares and stuff being shot like that, I don’t shoot. 
 

Luckily our hares are too good for most folks dogs and so it’s only the odd half grown one I find killed and left.

Some of these sporting hero’s you talk of are doubling up on stuff in July just for the record as well. 

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3 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Might be mate cranks 

but a lot are there in jan walking it when’s it’s bad cos they love a run 

what probs mate driving land 

you put a day on mate I pop after crimbo I like to watch a strong hare mate 

I have massive massive respect for anyone out walking the land with a good dog looking for good hares. It takes a lot of balls to be out there doing it and testing the dogs in today’s climate, and if folk didn’t do that, we would lose the blood we have now.

We hardly see anyone walking the ground, in fact I’ve only seen one lot this year and it was two young lads late teens / early twenties who’d traveled a fair old way on their own in a little car to get their dog some runs. I pulled up, had a chat and told them best places to go find a few runs and left them to it.

Mostly lads just drive, smash fences, trash stuff etc and if you stop them all jump out and threaten to smash your head in straight off. They leave what they kill, and steal annoying stuff like energisers and battery’s off fences etc. Also often seem to lose quads same time of year most years. 

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