Sausagedog 7,381 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 As you all know I am very impressed with my cz457 22. So much so I got one in 17hmr just last night. As it was dark I was unable to bore sight it last night but I was very conscious about the barrel running left in the stock channel (it's a wide channel). I initially thought the stock must be slightly bent. I mean it cant be the barrel or its mating to the receiver right! Wrong, it is! I got out first light and in a sheltered spot finally got it zeroed but the scope was way off centre. Something was wrong! It didn't look right. So this afternoon I pulled the barrel from the action and added a .008" shim on the left side between the barrel and receiver and tightened it down. To my delight the barrel is now in the centre of the stock channel and bore sighting revealed that the scope needed now shifting back to being closer to centre. The other issue is I doubt this rifle will shoot super tight groups although its early days yet but the crown is terrible in my opinion. The bevelled edge is uneven all the way around! That means that it is not square to the bore axis! Apart from all that I just managed to get a zero in the fading light tonight. What a come down. I've been really excited about getting this rifle but now wonder what have I done! I guess these days you can not count on anything being right anymore. Producers just presume a cnc machine cant get it wrong! But they do. Give me analogue human craftsmanship any day! Ergonomically it's great for my delicate frame and girl sized hands. I was connecting with small targets at 200 offhand and off sticks so we will have to just wait and see. The trigger is good though. Is it me or is this world doomed.....! 1 1 4 Quote Link to post
Stavross 16,037 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 DOOMED, we are all DOOMED 3 Quote Link to post
si brown 8,486 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 It’s not on at all sd, I’m pretty sure you’ve come across your fair share of up and coming young nuggets in the engineering trade, I know the building trades full of them and I wouldn’t have a new house given:( when it’s your job to inspect said rifles faults like that should scream out when you know what you should be lookin for.. I’m a dopey bricklayer and can crown barrels tru in me kitchen 2 1 Quote Link to post
Gav 1,708 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Sad. I've found good quality in the Japanese made browning barrels which is why I stick with them. Did you buy new? I wouldn't have a second hand rifle if you paid me to take it. I just watched Fred dibnah on riveting an old boiler, he said this generation would be lost, no one today knows engineering as it was. The skills of yesteryear have been lost now, unfortunately. 5 1 Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted October 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 36 minutes ago, si brown said: It’s not on at all sd, I’m pretty sure you’ve come across your fair share of up and coming young nuggets in the engineering trade, I know the building trades full of them and I wouldn’t have a new house given:( when it’s your job to inspect said rifles faults like that should scream out when you know what you should be lookin for.. I’m a dopey bricklayer and can crown barrels tru in me kitchen Tell me about it. Taking your car to the garage these days is a pure gamble. Odds on a spotty faced kid with a box full of certificates from college is unleashed on your timing belt when he cant even belt up his own trousers! 2 3 Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted October 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 21 minutes ago, Gav said: Sad. I've found good quality in the Japanese made browning barrels which is why I stick with them. Did you buy new? I wouldn't have a second hand rifle if you paid me to take it. I just watched Fred dibnah on riveting an old boiler, he said this generation would be lost, no one today knows engineering as it was. The skills of yesteryear have been lost now, unfortunately. New Gav. Its come out of the factory thus! Quote Link to post
Dervburner 2,549 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Sausagedog said: New Gav. Its come out of the factory thus! I knew you should’ve bought an annie sorry........... Quote Link to post
ianm 2,594 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 I would of taken it straight back as not fit for purpose. 6 Quote Link to post
philpot 5,020 Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 A rather good rfd near me has now stopped selling CZ, partly due to the Sportsman being the importer but also because he said they started getting more than normal levels of QC issues and guns being returned so perhaps it is not just your Bernard. Phil 2 Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted November 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 I have got it trued up now. I know I shouldn't have to but I knew what to do and being use to fixing stuff just got on with it. Casually rested it's running 1" groups at 100 . Time is needed now to let it prove itself or otherwise. It shoots great off hand which is important to me. 4 Quote Link to post
Meece 1,958 Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Is this their returns department... https://images.app.goo.gl/PvtswrPFeQ2YnjeS9 https://images.app.goo.gl/WmVT5F8RADBjcoVS8 Ere mate you got any scrap batteries. ? What yu doin wit those ole scrap tubes mate.? Lòk I got cash.! Holland & Holland's back yard. Edited November 4, 2020 by Meece Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) I'd complain to CZ in any event. There are 2 possibilities: 1. They're saving cash somewhere and it's back firing. 2. Someone in the factory is rogue and doesn't know what they're doing or maybe they're p*ssed at the company and do know what they're doing! Either way, CZ need to know if the guns they're turning out are now crap. Without that, the whole brands going to go downhill in the long run. Best to feed it back even if you're not going to return the gun and point out others have been having similar problems and people are now abandoning the brand. Personally I'd have returned it. It protects you against issues down the line plus whatever improvement you've made to the gun is nothing to what you could achieve if you did it to a gun that's right in the 1st place. Edited November 5, 2020 by Alsone Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted November 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 Over the years I've had to fix new rifles from Remington, Winchester, Savage , BSA and Wiehrach. Just how it is now, and it will only get worse. Accountants are running industry now, not engineers! 3 Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 I've need really busy recently and not been on the site much, did I miss something, I thought you had a HMR a while back? Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 14:12, philpot said: A rather good rfd near me has now stopped selling CZ, partly due to the Sportsman being the importer but also because he said they started getting more than normal levels of QC issues and guns being returned so perhaps it is not just your Bernard. Phil I really am behind the times, what happened to Edgar Bros?? Quote Link to post
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