my hounds 309 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 Heres a greyhound/deerhound(first x) cross collie/greyhound(first x) the photos in Bill Dohertys book its his mates dog looks mighty fine to me and a decent dog by all acount 16 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,864 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 hour ago, my hounds said: Heres a greyhound/deerhound(first x) cross collie/greyhound(first x) the photos in Bill Dohertys book its his mates dog looks mighty fine to me and a decent dog by all acount Still some cracking collie/grey x deer/greys about, catching all sorts of stuff regularly, as you know Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 On 28/08/2020 at 12:42, grompz said: did you ever see this cross run, i appreciate they were good for rabbit and hare, if bred the right way,but preban days were they not up to taking deer and foxes. what was lacking in them. Absolutely nothing in the right uns.They became popular when lurchers were at their zenith and the folk were about that actually knew how to fully utilise a decent lurcher.Its a breed now that is lost on the majority of the present generation.There is not the same standard of ownership now and the few decent souls will be hard pressed to source a decent lurcher of this type.The more popular breeds of lurchers bred now suit another time and generation.There are still lurcher to lurcher bred pups available with generations of graft behind them,id look for one of those and not get to hung up on wanting a specific type,source something that's bred to suit your hunting lifestyle,don,t follow fashion,stay away from the turds. 6 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 On 28/08/2020 at 13:33, tank34 said: Seen Morton son dog big strong dog , Morton said on here he putting dog over this Wheaton greyhound bitch The only reason he,s putting it over the Wheaten is because he cannot source another decent Deerhoundy/Collie combo that's suitable.Id not take have a pup out of the Wheaten bitch,good for what my lads looking for as grafters,will certainly lack the pace and gears. 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,864 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) On 29/08/2020 at 18:42, morton said: Absolutely nothing in the right uns.They became popular when lurchers were at their zenith and the folk were about that actually knew how to fully utilise a decent lurcher.Its a breed now that is lost on the majority of the present generation.There is not the same standard of ownership now and the few decent souls will be hard pressed to source a decent lurcher of this type.The more popular breeds of lurchers bred now suit another time and generation.There are still lurcher to lurcher bred pups available with generations of graft behind them,id look for one of those and not get to hung up on wanting a specific type,source something that's bred to suit your hunting lifestyle,don,t follow fashion,stay away from the turds. On 29/08/2020 at 18:54, morton said: The only reason he,s putting it over the Wheaten is because he cannot source another decent Deerhoundy/Collie combo that's suitable.Id not take have a pup out of the Wheaten bitch,good for what my lads looking for as grafters,will certainly lack the pace and gears. Edited September 2, 2020 by shaaark Quote Link to post
tank34 2,347 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, morton said: The only reason he,s putting it over the Wheaten is because he cannot source another decent Deerhoundy/Collie combo that's suitable.Id not take have a pup out of the Wheaten bitch,good for what my lads looking for as grafters,will certainly lack the pace and gears. Be handy mooching dogs an around a hole 1 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 Just now, tank34 said: Be handy mooching dogs an around a hole The Wheaten as one of the finest noses ive ever seen on a lurcher,her drive and determination is a thing to behold,she will scent,hunt and smash cover as well as any lurcher ive had the pleasure to witness,yet she lacks pace and a change of gear,to me that's possibly the biggest flaw in lurcher production. 1 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Told you years ago that wheaten would add to the line but no you said you’d hold out for the perfect bitch, I know we don’t get on but I wish your lad all the very best with his future pups The dog is far,far better than the bitch,if he put that dog over something bred the same way they would be far, far better than the progeny from the wheaten.If its a choice of producing something or nothing the wheaten comes into the equation.Id never breed for second best.No pups this time?.Its interesting that in his generation he had folk queueing up for a pup,because they had seen the dog at work,in my generation we would not have endorsed breeding from a bitch lacking pace and a gear shift.Cheers for the courtesy. 2 Quote Link to post
lurchers 2,855 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 8 hours ago, my hounds said: Heres a greyhound/deerhound(first x) cross collie/greyhound(first x) the photos in Bill Dohertys book its his mates dog looks mighty fine to me and a decent dog by all acount That’s a cracking looking dog mate,nearly every deerhound x greyhound years ago up here was all of bill stuff. Quote Link to post
Loton Moocher 1,254 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 7 hours ago, shaaark said: Still some cracking collie/grey x deer/greys about, catching all sorts of stuff regularly, as you know 8 hours ago, my hounds said: Heres a greyhound/deerhound(first x) cross collie/greyhound(first x) the photos in Bill Dohertys book its his mates dog looks mighty fine to me and a decent dog by all acount Thats a cracking looking juk mate Quote Link to post
Moocher71 4,050 Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 22 hours ago, lurchers said: That’s a cracking looking dog mate,nearly every deerhound x greyhound years ago up here was all of bill stuff. i see a 3q bred out of bills stuff yrs ago ,she put some stuff away . Quote Link to post
stevemac 434 Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 Deerhound over greyhound took all game available here and her son and daughter by a bully x grey 4 Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 I owned a DH/Grey x Collie/grey in the 80's was half decent catch dog although it lacked a bit of wind if truth be told. i often ran it with a saluki cross and they made a good paring. Alas it went wristy in the end. Don't think there's any strain of working deerhound about now and the show stuff is pretty abysmal so if one of this breeding did well it would be in-spite of rather than because of the Deerhound. They are lookers though and there are plenty of decent workers about that have a bit of dodgy breeding in their background. No photos but i did a painting back then titled legal quarry, was a different age. 3 Quote Link to post
Shadow100 1,066 Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 23 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: It's a Shame there Arnt more enthusiasts still keeping the Working Deerhound and their crosses Alive. A member on here from Scotland had what if I remember was a first cross Bitch that was useful back in the day . Charts keeps Deerhound blooded lurchers and I'm sure their are plenty others that don't bother with the internet . Hopefully anyways . They are dying out, it’s a shame that there’s not many people using them for the job they were bred for, to be honest there’s not a lot of people flat out at that job at all, a lot catch the odd bit here and there but not many people require a proper deer dog Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,089 Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 29/08/2020 at 18:42, morton said: Absolutely nothing in the right uns.They became popular when lurchers were at their zenith and the folk were about that actually knew how to fully utilise a decent lurcher.Its a breed now that is lost on the majority of the present generation.There is not the same standard of ownership now and the few decent souls will be hard pressed to source a decent lurcher of this type.The more popular breeds of lurchers bred now suit another time and generation.There are still lurcher to lurcher bred pups available with generations of graft behind them,id look for one of those and not get to hung up on wanting a specific type,source something that's bred to suit your hunting lifestyle,don,t follow fashion,stay away from the turds. Have you ever thought that maybe because of the way this generation is forced to hunt , that the use of the Subaru’s etc exposed the fact that deerhound greyhounds are f***ing shite in reality when exposed to hard regular work ? just a thought ? 2 1 1 Quote Link to post
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