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I know a fella had a bad back 40 years ,did it shagging ,big strong bugger he is too ,6ft 2in and 12st 10 ..

Stem Cell treatment is going to replace a lot of surgeries over the coming years for disc degeneration and herniation...things like spinal fusions will be in the past i recently heard of a case where

When I go shooting in damp conditions I like to lie on the ground to take my shots But without fail a couple of days later I end up with back spasms in my lumber and a really painful ache around the m

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6 minutes ago, Astanley said:

No ,why ?who did you think I meant 

No, nobody mate......it’s just if this bloke had a dog I was wondering what it might of weighed ? 

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2 hours ago, Blackmag said:

Mine's f****d but there's different  things you can try a sports massage a weight lifting belt when lifting  a hard mattress to sleep on im grateful she doesn't want sex every night other wise I would be f****d ? tens are good king depending on how you set them ? 

She said it took the pain away.but I never heard of them untill the wife mentioned them my lower back gets a bit stiff sometimes.its more like an ache than pain.driving machines has done my back I think.and tennis elbow in the left arm from the dozer.

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2 hours ago, Greb147 said:

f**k knows what caused it, crazy how it went. Since 18 I've grafted like f**k on the railway lifting some serious weights that include equipment and materials. 

I was the biggest and the youngest in the gang so it was always me lifting and carrying things others couldn't, I always used to take the piss out of blokes moaning about their back. Tbh I think half of them were just lazy c**ts and didn't really suffer from it. 

Anyway about 6 years ago I came off the railway for a bit and got a job at Aldi picking where I stayed for about 10 month. 

I loved the job tbh, mainly because for the first time in my life I was working with woman as well as men, let's just say it was a laugh for a single lad. 

It was a great shift and I was usually finished by the late mornings so I joined the gym for the first time in my life. 

I was used to lifting heavy weights at work but never done a weights program in the gym, apart from one or two sessions before. 

I can recall  deadlifting without using the proper technique, I think I was arching my back when I lowered the weight. I can remember after one session my back feeling compressed after deadlifting. There was no pain just tightness. 

Now I'm not sure if it was the next day but it was soon after at work when I bent over to pick some tins up I got the biggest shooting pain in my back and down my arse in to my leg, it felt like I'd been belted by an electric shock. 

I don't know if it was the deadlifting that caused it or the bending and twisting at work. 

It has never been right from that day, chiropractor has said one thing and massage therapist another thing. 

I'm gonna book in not a physiotherapist then and see if they can sort it out, I hope it's muscular and nothing to do with my disc. 

I do though think it is something to do with the disc because sometimes when it goes by vertebrae feels really sore and painful when touched, like a hot poker is pressed on it. 

That's it when we are young we think we are bullet proof.but a bad back is no fun I've had them shooting pains down the thighs they only go about half way down I find.

I took my step sisters to the fun fair about 22yrs ago and went on the caterpillar ride and it jolted the seat and banged my bottom back on the hard plastic seat.its never been right since then.i might of damaged a disc maybe.

Get yourself to a proper sports physio see what they say.a rugby 1 I would say as they are used to bending big lads about the table etc.

I was on my back he held my right shoulder on the table and pushed my raised knee untill it touched the left side of the table and vice versa.the clicks and noises was something else.i thought he had snapped me lol.

You better sort that back you gotta carry a little un on them shoulders in a few years time.

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2 hours ago, WILF said:

Aye, that’s f****d.....mines the same.

All those massage blokes and chiropractors and all that are a complete waste of money I found.......slow stretches, anti inflammatory tablets when it starts to get sore, tens machine, back support when it does go.

Just accept that it’s never going to be right and then you learn to be careful with it.

That voltarol is really good anti inflammatory cream.it ain't cheap though.

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8 hours ago, Greb147 said:

I don't know if the deadlift set mine off or if it was from work, either way it hasn't been right since that day at work. 

If it is muscular I don't understand how just one injury can still cause this recurrence 5-6 years later. 

If it is bad posture it won't heal. I don't know shit but I'd be looking into that and making it part of my daily routine to do a few mobility stretches to target those areas. Hip flexors and hamstrings right? Not just as rehab either, as part of your life going forward, pain or not. I'd sack off any ideas of intense low rep strength lifts too in favour of higher volume routines. Much easier to monitor weak links in your body and still focus on working the targeted muscles.

I was running 10kms twice a week and loving it until a month ago when the old ITBS hit. It's very frustrating.

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3 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

If it is bad posture it won't heal. I don't know shit but I'd be looking into that and making it part of my daily routine to do a few mobility stretches to target those areas. Hip flexors and hamstrings right? Not just as rehab either, as part of your life going forward, pain or not. I'd sack off any ideas of intense low rep strength lifts too in favour of higher volume routines. Much easier to monitor weak links in your body and still focus on working the targeted muscles.

I was running 10kms twice a week and loving it until a month ago when the old ITBS hit. It's very frustrating.

I'm going to see a physio and see what they say, like I said I didn't really give the chiropractor enough time to sort it. 

I have noticed that for the most part doing anything strenuous that involves lifting, pulling or digging sets it off. 

Once it's been triggered even walking can twinge it, it randomly twinges on both sides as well which I read was unusual. 

Baffles me how one incident can have this knock on effect 5 years later, before that episode my back was strong because of the job I did. 

That's another thing, I want to start the gym and do a full body routine but that involves deadlifting and squatting. 

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15 minutes ago, Rusty_terrier said:

I went from being I'm the gym one night at the point where I didnt even known of I could walk out it was that sore to feeling fine in a few months. I did get deep tissue massages  but I dont think they helped much just felt good. For me it was the daily lower back stretching routine and lower  back/core strengthening stuff he gave me that made the difference. As somebody else mentioned I got a firm mattress as well and sleep much better. Although my body feels fine now I still find myself stretching a few times per week.

That's what it was like for me, I got that initial lightning bolt down my lower back, arse and legs and from then on the shocks got more frequent. By the end of the shift my back was in bits, like an idiot though I never had any time off and continued doing the same task at work. 

I remember having one session with a massage therapist and from what I remember she mentioned one of my glutes wasn't firing properly which was putting a strain on my lower back. 

Like you it felt nice but it didn't heal it. 

A couple of years later after it was hurting again I went to see the chiropractor and he mentioned that one side of my hip was dropping or something. 

That's what I mean, one person tells you this and the other that. Sometimes I just think they're pillocking a living so it's hard to know what the real cause is. 

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3 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

I'm going to see a physio and see what they say, like I said I didn't really give the chiropractor enough time to sort it. 

I have noticed that for the most part doing anything strenuous that involves lifting, pulling or digging sets it off. 

Once it's been triggered even walking can twinge it, it randomly twinges on both sides as well which I read was unusual. 

Baffles me how one incident can have this knock on effect 5 years later, before that episode my back was strong because of the job I did. 

That's another thing, I want to start the gym and do a full body routine but that involves deadlifting and squatting. 

Because for the majority of your life you’ve been causing wear and tear on the body and that’s how you got to this point

posture is important as is how you sit

and even how you walk

i lost all the feeling in my legs through a bulging disc and refused surgery etc and healed up with the help of an army physio

on Instagram smashwerx has some amazing videos that help with lots of issues

and the ready state are worth checking out too
 

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1 minute ago, Greb147 said:

Baffles me how one incident can have this knock on effect 5 years later, before that episode my back was strong because of the job I did. 

That's what I'm saying though, that one incident might just have been the first time you felt pain from a fundamental poor posture. Through rehab and being careful that inflammation subsides and you feel 'better' again but the fundamental cause is still there waiting for you to do something to trigger it again. Do you get what I'm trying to say mate?

5 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

That's another thing, I want to start the gym and do a full body routine but that involves deadlifting and squatting. 

Obviously you shouldn't train on an injury but moving forward with this as a part of your life you might want to avoid certain lifts or as I said intense low rep stuff. I think there's benefit to putting your whole body under load in the way a DL does but there's plenty of people built great bodies without it. Same for squats. Or at least until you feel healthy/strong enough to incorporate them again.

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I’ve been a Self employed builder for just over 30 year and have to rive shit round all day.. back was bad for years, chiropractor  was good and the only thing that worked till it got to the point he couldn’t sort it out any more, me discs were fcuked and the bones are worn from rubbing!

so I had the discs removed and replaced with plastic ones.. had about 10 years pain free but it plays up every now and again for the last year or so think the replacements need replacing?

long shot of this is, my lass bought me this a few weeks ago... it cost a full £6 from Aldi, it works a treat.. it hurts like f doing it but I feel 100% better afterwards, I get some right clicks and crunches while doing it but that’s what the chiropractor dose!

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14 minutes ago, si brown said:

I’ve been a Self employed builder for just over 30 year and have to rive shit round all day.. back was bad for years, chiropractor  was good and the only thing that worked till it got to the point he couldn’t sort it out any more, me discs were fcuked and the bones are worn from rubbing!

so I had the discs removed and replaced with plastic ones.. had about 10 years pain free but it plays up every now and again for the last year or so think the replacements need replacing?

long shot of this is, my lass bought me this a few weeks ago... it cost a full £6 from Aldi, it works a treat.. it hurts like f doing it but I feel 100% better afterwards, I get some right clicks and crunches while doing it but that’s what the chiropractor dose!

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hurt like hell don't they....even the smooth ones ...lol

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36 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

That's what it was like for me, I got that initial lightning bolt down my lower back, arse and legs and from then on the shocks got more frequent. By the end of the shift my back was in bits, like an idiot though I never had any time off and continued doing the same task at work. 

I remember having one session with a massage therapist and from what I remember she mentioned one of my glutes wasn't firing properly which was putting a strain on my lower back. 

Like you it felt nice but it didn't heal it. 

A couple of years later after it was hurting again I went to see the chiropractor and he mentioned that one side of my hip was dropping or something. 

That's what I mean, one person tells you this and the other that. Sometimes I just think they're pillocking a living so it's hard to know what the real cause is. 

Everyone’s an expert mate but the best advice I can give you is to go down Aldi,s when they have a special on man up juice and get yourself a few cans, bad backs are part of being an active man, if your in real pain a disc has slightly moved in your back and is touching your nerve, they can shave a little bit off to ease the pressure but it’s a slippery slope mate, just plough on through it ?

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