Astanley 11,568 Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Blackmag said: He doesn't wear a size 11 does he all nice and shiny boots with dodgy knees and wears a hat that's to small by any chance Stan No ,different fella 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,793 Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Astanley said: No ,why ?who did you think I meant No, nobody mate......it’s just if this bloke had a dog I was wondering what it might of weighed ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,475 Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 49 minutes ago, WILF said: No, nobody mate......it’s just if this bloke had a dog I was wondering what it might of weighed ? Not to mention temperament Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,972 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Blackmag said: Mine's f****d but there's different things you can try a sports massage a weight lifting belt when lifting a hard mattress to sleep on im grateful she doesn't want sex every night other wise I would be f****d tens are good king depending on how you set them She said it took the pain away.but I never heard of them untill the wife mentioned them my lower back gets a bit stiff sometimes.its more like an ache than pain.driving machines has done my back I think.and tennis elbow in the left arm from the dozer. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,972 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Greb147 said: f**k knows what caused it, crazy how it went. Since 18 I've grafted like f**k on the railway lifting some serious weights that include equipment and materials. I was the biggest and the youngest in the gang so it was always me lifting and carrying things others couldn't, I always used to take the piss out of blokes moaning about their back. Tbh I think half of them were just lazy c**ts and didn't really suffer from it. Anyway about 6 years ago I came off the railway for a bit and got a job at Aldi picking where I stayed for about 10 month. I loved the job tbh, mainly because for the first time in my life I was working with woman as well as men, let's just say it was a laugh for a single lad. It was a great shift and I was usually finished by the late mornings so I joined the gym for the first time in my life. I was used to lifting heavy weights at work but never done a weights program in the gym, apart from one or two sessions before. I can recall deadlifting without using the proper technique, I think I was arching my back when I lowered the weight. I can remember after one session my back feeling compressed after deadlifting. There was no pain just tightness. Now I'm not sure if it was the next day but it was soon after at work when I bent over to pick some tins up I got the biggest shooting pain in my back and down my arse in to my leg, it felt like I'd been belted by an electric shock. I don't know if it was the deadlifting that caused it or the bending and twisting at work. It has never been right from that day, chiropractor has said one thing and massage therapist another thing. I'm gonna book in not a physiotherapist then and see if they can sort it out, I hope it's muscular and nothing to do with my disc. I do though think it is something to do with the disc because sometimes when it goes by vertebrae feels really sore and painful when touched, like a hot poker is pressed on it. That's it when we are young we think we are bullet proof.but a bad back is no fun I've had them shooting pains down the thighs they only go about half way down I find. I took my step sisters to the fun fair about 22yrs ago and went on the caterpillar ride and it jolted the seat and banged my bottom back on the hard plastic seat.its never been right since then.i might of damaged a disc maybe. Get yourself to a proper sports physio see what they say.a rugby 1 I would say as they are used to bending big lads about the table etc. I was on my back he held my right shoulder on the table and pushed my raised knee untill it touched the left side of the table and vice versa.the clicks and noises was something else.i thought he had snapped me lol. You better sort that back you gotta carry a little un on them shoulders in a few years time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,972 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, WILF said: Aye, that’s f****d.....mines the same. All those massage blokes and chiropractors and all that are a complete waste of money I found.......slow stretches, anti inflammatory tablets when it starts to get sore, tens machine, back support when it does go. Just accept that it’s never going to be right and then you learn to be careful with it. That voltarol is really good anti inflammatory cream.it ain't cheap though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tilimangro 1,013 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Stretch out hip flexors and ham strings regularly Sit cross legged On the floor and lean forward stretching the lower back 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Greb147 said: I don't know if the deadlift set mine off or if it was from work, either way it hasn't been right since that day at work. If it is muscular I don't understand how just one injury can still cause this recurrence 5-6 years later. If it is bad posture it won't heal. I don't know shit but I'd be looking into that and making it part of my daily routine to do a few mobility stretches to target those areas. Hip flexors and hamstrings right? Not just as rehab either, as part of your life going forward, pain or not. I'd sack off any ideas of intense low rep strength lifts too in favour of higher volume routines. Much easier to monitor weak links in your body and still focus on working the targeted muscles. I was running 10kms twice a week and loving it until a month ago when the old ITBS hit. It's very frustrating. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted August 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: If it is bad posture it won't heal. I don't know shit but I'd be looking into that and making it part of my daily routine to do a few mobility stretches to target those areas. Hip flexors and hamstrings right? Not just as rehab either, as part of your life going forward, pain or not. I'd sack off any ideas of intense low rep strength lifts too in favour of higher volume routines. Much easier to monitor weak links in your body and still focus on working the targeted muscles. I was running 10kms twice a week and loving it until a month ago when the old ITBS hit. It's very frustrating. I'm going to see a physio and see what they say, like I said I didn't really give the chiropractor enough time to sort it. I have noticed that for the most part doing anything strenuous that involves lifting, pulling or digging sets it off. Once it's been triggered even walking can twinge it, it randomly twinges on both sides as well which I read was unusual. Baffles me how one incident can have this knock on effect 5 years later, before that episode my back was strong because of the job I did. That's another thing, I want to start the gym and do a full body routine but that involves deadlifting and squatting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted August 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Rusty_terrier said: I went from being I'm the gym one night at the point where I didnt even known of I could walk out it was that sore to feeling fine in a few months. I did get deep tissue massages but I dont think they helped much just felt good. For me it was the daily lower back stretching routine and lower back/core strengthening stuff he gave me that made the difference. As somebody else mentioned I got a firm mattress as well and sleep much better. Although my body feels fine now I still find myself stretching a few times per week. That's what it was like for me, I got that initial lightning bolt down my lower back, arse and legs and from then on the shocks got more frequent. By the end of the shift my back was in bits, like an idiot though I never had any time off and continued doing the same task at work. I remember having one session with a massage therapist and from what I remember she mentioned one of my glutes wasn't firing properly which was putting a strain on my lower back. Like you it felt nice but it didn't heal it. A couple of years later after it was hurting again I went to see the chiropractor and he mentioned that one side of my hip was dropping or something. That's what I mean, one person tells you this and the other that. Sometimes I just think they're pillocking a living so it's hard to know what the real cause is. Edited August 20, 2020 by Greb147 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tilimangro 1,013 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Greb147 said: I'm going to see a physio and see what they say, like I said I didn't really give the chiropractor enough time to sort it. I have noticed that for the most part doing anything strenuous that involves lifting, pulling or digging sets it off. Once it's been triggered even walking can twinge it, it randomly twinges on both sides as well which I read was unusual. Baffles me how one incident can have this knock on effect 5 years later, before that episode my back was strong because of the job I did. That's another thing, I want to start the gym and do a full body routine but that involves deadlifting and squatting. Because for the majority of your life you’ve been causing wear and tear on the body and that’s how you got to this point posture is important as is how you sit and even how you walk i lost all the feeling in my legs through a bulging disc and refused surgery etc and healed up with the help of an army physio on Instagram smashwerx has some amazing videos that help with lots of issues and the ready state are worth checking out too 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Greb147 said: Baffles me how one incident can have this knock on effect 5 years later, before that episode my back was strong because of the job I did. That's what I'm saying though, that one incident might just have been the first time you felt pain from a fundamental poor posture. Through rehab and being careful that inflammation subsides and you feel 'better' again but the fundamental cause is still there waiting for you to do something to trigger it again. Do you get what I'm trying to say mate? 5 minutes ago, Greb147 said: That's another thing, I want to start the gym and do a full body routine but that involves deadlifting and squatting. Obviously you shouldn't train on an injury but moving forward with this as a part of your life you might want to avoid certain lifts or as I said intense low rep stuff. I think there's benefit to putting your whole body under load in the way a DL does but there's plenty of people built great bodies without it. Same for squats. Or at least until you feel healthy/strong enough to incorporate them again. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
si brown 8,486 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 I’ve been a Self employed builder for just over 30 year and have to rive shit round all day.. back was bad for years, chiropractor was good and the only thing that worked till it got to the point he couldn’t sort it out any more, me discs were fcuked and the bones are worn from rubbing! so I had the discs removed and replaced with plastic ones.. had about 10 years pain free but it plays up every now and again for the last year or so think the replacements need replacing long shot of this is, my lass bought me this a few weeks ago... it cost a full £6 from Aldi, it works a treat.. it hurts like f doing it but I feel 100% better afterwards, I get some right clicks and crunches while doing it but that’s what the chiropractor dose! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,130 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, si brown said: I’ve been a Self employed builder for just over 30 year and have to rive shit round all day.. back was bad for years, chiropractor was good and the only thing that worked till it got to the point he couldn’t sort it out any more, me discs were fcuked and the bones are worn from rubbing! so I had the discs removed and replaced with plastic ones.. had about 10 years pain free but it plays up every now and again for the last year or so think the replacements need replacing long shot of this is, my lass bought me this a few weeks ago... it cost a full £6 from Aldi, it works a treat.. it hurts like f doing it but I feel 100% better afterwards, I get some right clicks and crunches while doing it but that’s what the chiropractor dose! hurt like hell don't they....even the smooth ones ...lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,439 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 36 minutes ago, Greb147 said: That's what it was like for me, I got that initial lightning bolt down my lower back, arse and legs and from then on the shocks got more frequent. By the end of the shift my back was in bits, like an idiot though I never had any time off and continued doing the same task at work. I remember having one session with a massage therapist and from what I remember she mentioned one of my glutes wasn't firing properly which was putting a strain on my lower back. Like you it felt nice but it didn't heal it. A couple of years later after it was hurting again I went to see the chiropractor and he mentioned that one side of my hip was dropping or something. That's what I mean, one person tells you this and the other that. Sometimes I just think they're pillocking a living so it's hard to know what the real cause is. Everyone’s an expert mate but the best advice I can give you is to go down Aldi,s when they have a special on man up juice and get yourself a few cans, bad backs are part of being an active man, if your in real pain a disc has slightly moved in your back and is touching your nerve, they can shave a little bit off to ease the pressure but it’s a slippery slope mate, just plough on through it 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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