Ancient history programme

[mushroom 13,443]

  On 20/08/2020 at 14:34, Born Hunter said:

Yeah but in the grand scheme of things the successive waves of Sapiens were too close together to have given time for much divergence to have occurred. Maybe the low tens of thousands of years right? Whereas the hominids that went on to become Neanderthal left Africa hundreds of thousands of years before Sapiens did.

We've established what you are by the THL peer review system. Ketchup will inform you in due course.

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First bit completely agree. Neanderthal, Denasovian, came from Australopithecus, who left Africa a couple of million years ago... but so did we We just had to evolve different. There was an interesting article about 10 years ago from China, they were trying to prove a genetic direct link to the waves of Australopithecines and prove chinese/Asians were a seperated human species. Totally proved wrong through the genetic markers (paternal and maternal) but they did come out with some very weird results

Second bit..... wtf?

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[Born Hunter 17,837]

  On 20/08/2020 at 15:07, mushroom said:

Second bit..... wtf?

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Earlier in the thread you were compared to valuev, as the opposite end of the species spectrum. We then decided you were in fact the previously undiscovered homo homo pygmius....

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 20/08/2020 at 14:30, Born Hunter said:

If we get into the nitty gritty, whether Neanderthal was a Hominid species or a Sapien sub-species is hotly contested argument. For that matter so is the actual definition of 'species'. Generally these days the production of fertile offspring isn't considered necessary.

Hell, if you really want to open a can of worms, what constitutes a life-form is up for grabs still. Viruses for example go from life to death with the scientific winds!

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Where do we draw the line though? 

I know we have such classifications but is there actually such a thing as a subspecies? 

It's true that species have different adaptations to suit their habitat but are they really a subspecies? 

You only have to look at animals like Tigers, Leopards etc.

[Born Hunter 17,837]

  On 20/08/2020 at 15:17, Greb147 said:

Where do we draw the line though? 

I know we have such classifications but is there actually such a thing as a subspecies? 

It's true that species have different adaptations to suit their habitat but are they really a subspecies? 

You only have to look at animals like Tigers, Leopards etc.

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f****d if I know. Lol

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 20/08/2020 at 15:19, Born Hunter said:

f****d if I know. Lol

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What makes me laugh is we can readily separate animals in to subspecies when they have physical or geographic differences yet woe betide anyone who tries to do the same with humans. 

[Francie 6,368]

The only differences is physical, to the eye, the rest is just conjecture, but how does this equate to the missing link? 

[Born Hunter 17,837]

  On 20/08/2020 at 15:56, maxhardcore said:

Most Europeans carry 1-5% Neanderthal DNA to this day I think the percentages dictate.

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Pretty much yeah. Much of the world does, with the exception of subsaharan Africans. Well they might have a trace amount.

[mushroom 13,443]

  On 20/08/2020 at 15:12, Born Hunter said:

Earlier in the thread you were compared to valuev, as the opposite end of the species spectrum. We then decided you were in fact the previously undiscovered homo homo pygmius....

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Da fuuck!.... I didn't see that

CNUTS!

[mushroom 13,443]

Muthafuckas

[Born Hunter 17,837]

  On 20/08/2020 at 17:11, mushroom said:

Muthafuckas

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Ah yes, the distinctive alarm call of the homo homo pygmius.

[mushroom 13,443]

  On 20/08/2020 at 17:14, Born Hunter said:

Ah yes, the distinctive alarm call of the homo homo pygmius.

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Fuuckin Attenborough, Cousteau, Crockett wannabe

I'm gonna tell all my wee mates that Sheldon is a cnut... there's gonna be little people protesting ya dirty monkey testing facilities, in the morning

[Born Hunter 17,837]

  On 20/08/2020 at 18:46, mushroom said:

Fuuckin Attenborough, Cousteau, Crockett wannabe

I'm gonna tell all my wee mates that Sheldon is a cnut... there's gonna be little people protesting ya dirty monkey testing facilities, in the morning

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I'm scared!

 

[Greyman 29,807]

Small lives matter

[WILF 48,246]

Interesting stuff from all you folks with big brains.

Heres another question, I wonder what led each group down such different paths ?

So, your European has really taking his potential a long way and your sub Saharan African has barely changed ? 
 

Brain size maybe?.......that bit of extra volume meant a lot ?

I wonder what it is ?

[mushroom 13,443]

  On 20/08/2020 at 19:13, WILF said:

Interesting stuff from all you folks with big brains.

Heres another question, I wonder what led each group down such different paths ?

So, your European has really taking his potential a long way and your sub Saharan African has barely changed ? 
 

Brain size maybe?.......that bit of extra volume meant a lot ?

I wonder what it is ?

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Difference is diet and need, so we're led to believe. I'm not a neurologist, as I understand it, human brains are all (roughly) the same size. Neanderthals had bigger brains