Trev70 5,185 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Elchapo said: The genuine half cross collie greyhound I had couldn’t catch a hand full of rabbits round by me , it was fit healthy and started at the right age , just didn’t have the gears , neither did couple the other pups of the lads I spoke to , I reared a half cross bull greyhound wich to be honest three very greyhoundy , that caught plenty of rabbits a night but ended up smashing it’s feet up a lot , ive also seen a 28” half cross bull catch 20+ rabbits hare and track deer on the same land I’ve seen collie greys not get close to , but I’ve also seen saluki grey collie grey with a Touch of bull in kill most quarry on diffrent land , , most of the half cross bull greys that are bread ain’t even propper bull greys , anyone who thinks adding propper bull to lurcher s only adds gameness ain’t seen propper bulls , and I’m not saying collie greys wont put food on the table because they do but a genuine half cross collie grey round by me won’t be catching much , a lot of people tend to get the dog that would suit them instead of getting the dog that would suit the terrain/quarry/ hunting style The best lamping rabbit and all round fox dog I've owned was a first x bull greyhound bitch , she didn't look like the bull x's you see these days she looked more like a lab x greyhound , owned her from a pup until she died of old age , she kill her last fox at the age of ten which was bolted out of a drain, she never saw a dales rabbit but I know she would of catched good numbers up there . Edited August 18, 2020 by Trev70 1 Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,176 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Just realised it's your lad breeze...looks like you Poor f****d. .lol Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,176 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Trev70 said: The best lamping rabbit and all round fox dog I've owned was a first x bull greyhound bitch , she didn't look like the bull x's you see these days she looked more like a lab x greyhound , owned her from a pup until she died of old age , she kill her last fox at the age of ten which was bolted out of a drain, she never saw a dales rabbit but I know she would of catched good numbers up there . Funny you say that ...one of the best ones I seen on lamped bunnies was a pit/ grey first cross...my mate owned it..unbelievable stamina she had only 22 inch 45 lbs ish.... I remember him working away steel erecting for months...took her out when he got back 11 year old she was and she caught I think 38 up Chatsworth way in Derbyshire. ..she hadn't been out for ages...great old bitch she was 3 Quote Link to post
breeze 1,307 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, TOMO said: Just realised it's your lad breeze...looks like you Poor f****d. .lol b*****d.... Quote Link to post
fred90 3,230 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, TOMO said: Funny you say that ...one of the best ones I seen on lamped bunnies was a pit/ grey first cross...my mate owned it..unbelievable stamina she had only 22 inch 45 lbs ish.... I remember him working away steel erecting for months...took her out when he got back 11 year old she was and she caught I think 38 up Chatsworth way in Derbyshire. ..she hadn't been out for ages...great old bitch she was I don't think you would do it up there now tomo Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,176 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, fred90 said: I don't think you would do it up there now tomo No mate . Lack of bunny's all over...shame really Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,780 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Loton Moocher said: I know i must be hancocks dogs biggest critic ,but this one is out the last litter they av bred , and the the way the lad has it trained has impressed me look forward to see what it can do in the field now ? Which of the studs is that pup's sire L M? Nice pup Quote Link to post
Loton Moocher 1,254 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, shaaark said: Which of the studs is that pup's sire L M? Nice pup 9 minutes ago, shaaark said: Which of the studs is that pup's sire L M? Nice pup It is in it ? Tbh he did tell me but i forgot i ask when see him , i told if he was to bung a whippet or a grew over it in the future i may be tempted to go s astay from beddys but if this pup works aswell as its been trained it will. Be some dog he just started it on the net , he did say it been hard work and i aint suprised coz all the dogs iv seen come from there are highly strung nervous things ? 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,780 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Loton Moocher said: It is in it ? Tbh he did tell me but i forgot i ask when see him , i told if he was to bung a whippet or a grew over it in the future i may be tempted to go s astay from beddys but if this pup works aswell as its been trained it will. Be some dog he just started it on the net , he did say it been hard work and i aint suprised coz all the dogs iv seen come from there are highly strung nervous things ? My lad had a three quarter bred, by merlin, from there. Best temperamant I've seen on any collie cross, and I've seen a lot, and owned a couple. Got to say though, every dog with beardie in from there that I've seen, or sired by from there, like one I had years ago, sired by taffy, have been more than a tad hard work, odd, weird, call it what you will Quote Link to post
Loton Moocher 1,254 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, shaaark said: My lad had a three quarter bred, by merlin, from there. Best temperamant I've seen on any collie cross, and I've seen a lot, and owned a couple. Got to say though, every dog with beardie in from there that I've seen, or sired by from there, like one I had years ago, sired by taffy, have been more than a tad hard work, odd, weird, call it what you will Think the problems start because there not socialised this one was scared of its own shadow but fair play to him his hard work is paying off 2 Quote Link to post
whitefeet4190 1,725 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 I've got a Hancock dog to start this season and mine was the same scared of his own shadow but a few trips down the local pub an he soon came out his shell 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,959 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, whitefeet4190 said: I've got a Hancock dog to start this season and mine was the same scared of his own shadow but a few trips down the local pub an he soon came out his shell I were the same 1 2 Quote Link to post
Loton Moocher 1,254 Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 9 hours ago, whitefeet4190 said: I've got a Hancock dog to start this season and mine was the same scared of his own shadow but a few trips down the local pub an he soon came out his shell It may be out the same litter ? Quote Link to post
Neal 1,867 Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Loton Moocher said: It is in it ? Tbh he did tell me but i forgot i ask when see him , i told if he was to bung a whippet or a grew over it in the future i may be tempted to go s astay from beddys but if this pup works aswell as its been trained it will. Be some dog he just started it on the net , he did say it been hard work and i aint suprised coz all the dogs iv seen come from there are highly strung nervous things ? My first lurcher was a Hancock bred beardie x greyhound but that was back when he had Remus as his beardie stud. She certainly wasn't nervous! Anything but! I had a devil of a time breaking her to sheep (a bit of a necessity as I lived in Coniston!) but she became bomb-proof on them. She'd have a go at anything from mice and magpies to shelduck and heron...fortunately she didn't catch them but it was not my proudest moment...the heron was in the garden standing in the beck but the shelduck was at Torn Hows with tourists close by. Eek! My dog training has come a long way since then. Edited to add: re them being one man dogs...she went missing once and I spent hours searching all over Coniston Moor when I heard reports of a dog trapped down one of the disused mines but it turned out she was at Hawkshead police station after jumpimg over the garden wall and following a mother and daughter and jumping in their car with them. Complete tart she was. Make friends with anybody. Edited August 19, 2020 by Neal Quote Link to post
whitefeet4190 1,725 Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Loton Moocher said: It may be out the same litter ? What's urs mine is a 3/4 grey 1/4 bearded 1/4 boarder but there was a litter slightly younger than mine which was 1/2 grey 1/2 bearded Quote Link to post
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