Brexit fishing row: Boris stuns Barnier with demand for 'near total' BAN on EU vessels

[jetro 5,349]

5 hours ago, WILF said:

Jacob is at Strokestown, he is investigating a thing where by you donate to the farm and in return you own a share of the harvest.

I signed up for it and if he gets it up and going I’d be happy to do it, it’s a way small producers can expand and the donated gets something back too.

Don’t  know what the costs are or anything yet as it’s just at a research stage from what I can gather.

Theres a bloke up your way called “Mad Yolk Farm” and he does box schemes and sells at farmers markets in Galway, he only serves local people and he is feeding about 70 customers off of half and acre !! 

This lad is just down the road from me. 

He has some set up on very little ground. One acre.

 

Atb j 

[WILF 48,265]

2 hours ago, foxdropper said:

That’s not sprayed just fresh cut mate .Sun bleached .Farmers don’t spray off silage grass ,trust me .

Mate, that’s a sprayed off field on their farm by Athenry, I guarantee you that.....it’s a 100% authenticated.

Look at the fields in the background, we are in the west of ireland not sub Saharan Africa ! Lol lol 

[jetro 5,349]

18 hours ago, NEWKID said:

Pollack, Whiting, spider crab, mackerel (well not now its trendy) loads of fish that are overlooked...for cod..(batter some Pollack and see if you can taste the difference...of course bass has been the other favourite for years, but gurnard or bream are just as good.. (better maybe)...dabs are lovely...even flounder, not as good as plaice I know but still tasty...

The thing with this country is the majority only think of cod and chips, the French, Spanish, Portuguese etc make amazing dishes out of a variety of fish, fish stews or bouillabaisse, chowders, etc...

Fish cakes for instance, you could use pouting, Whiting etc and most would be none the wiser...

 

Its easy to conserve stocks if you arent completely blinkered to eating only 1 fish (cod) and thinking lobster is the bees knees.... give me a crab over a lobster any day!

Wrass is readily eaten here, sweet when fresh, just as nice salted.

Atb j 

[jetro 5,349]

22 hours ago, king said:

Spot on.you won't be shy of a lobster now and again mate.

It must be frustrating watching a rough sea and wanting to get put there to earn a living.

Edited to add.

Is there any laws if you wanted to drop say 2 lobster pots from a kayak now and again.or do you need permits etc.

https://www.sfpa.ie/Who-We-Are/News/Details/new-laws-for-lobster-and-crab-fishing

There you go king. 

Laws just for non commercial fishing. 

It's changed a bit in the last four years, but still fair enough. 

Atb j 

[king 11,984]

52 minutes ago, jetro said:

https://www.sfpa.ie/Who-We-Are/News/Details/new-laws-for-lobster-and-crab-fishing

There you go king. 

Laws just for non commercial fishing. 

It's changed a bit in the last four years, but still fair enough. 

Atb j 

Yea that is fair enough mate.1 lobster a day is all you need.or a few crabs..

[WILF 48,265]

1 hour ago, jetro said:

https://www.sfpa.ie/Who-We-Are/News/Details/new-laws-for-lobster-and-crab-fishing

There you go king. 

Laws just for non commercial fishing. 

It's changed a bit in the last four years, but still fair enough. 

Atb j 

Aye, that’s not too bad that mate

[jetro 5,349]

16 minutes ago, WILF said:

Aye, that’s not too bad that mate

Its fair enough.

No impact on the lads trying to make a living, plus you have plenty of time to stock the freezer 

Atb j 

[Nicepix 5,650]

The fishing argument is a lot more complicated than people realise.  Every day hundreds of French and Spanish registered refrigerated lorries arrive in the UK loaded with French and Spanish farm produce. They unload in the UK and then go and load up with fresh sea food to take back to French and Spanish markets. Those lorries can't go back empty as it would cost the hauliers too much and that cost would be passed onto the farm producers making their products less competitive. Macrons' threat about banning British sea food from French markets is nonsense. It would put his own farmers and hauliers out of business.

By not giving in to Barnier's demands the UK is showing the EU that it will not be pushed around and is making things very uncomfortable for local politicians in fishing areas. Ultimately the EU fishermen will have to accept losing much of their current fishing areas and that will allow the UK fleet to grow over the next few years.

[DIDO.1 22,851]

45 minutes ago, Nicepix said:

The fishing argument is a lot more complicated than people realise.  Every day hundreds of French and Spanish registered refrigerated lorries arrive in the UK loaded with French and Spanish farm produce. They unload in the UK and then go and load up with fresh sea food to take back to French and Spanish markets. Those lorries can't go back empty as it would cost the hauliers too much and that cost would be passed onto the farm producers making their products less competitive. Macrons' threat about banning British sea food from French markets is nonsense. It would put his own farmers and hauliers out of business.

By not giving in to Barnier's demands the UK is showing the EU that it will not be pushed around and is making things very uncomfortable for local politicians in fishing areas. Ultimately the EU fishermen will have to accept losing much of their current fishing areas and that will allow the UK fleet to grow over the next few years.

I get we want our fleet to grow, but we can't crew the boats we have. Most have philipppino crews. 

[low plains drifter 10,864]

On 24/07/2020 at 15:30, king said:

Be nice to see our fishing industry thrive again and hopefully loads of new jobs for young lads starting out etc.. 

It would mate, my  town is a fishing port which has changed a lot we used to walk around the fish quay with dogs, ferrets, air guns even a big old crossbow at one time lol, there'd be a feckin hit squad on your case if you tried that these days

[king 11,984]

2 hours ago, low plains drifter said:

It would mate, my  town is a fishing port which has changed a lot we used to walk around the fish quay with dogs, ferrets, air guns even a big old crossbow at one time lol, there'd be a feckin hit squad on your case if you tried that these days

To right as a bunch of youths walking about with an air rifle each.we didn't realise how good we had it lol.

[tilimangro 1,013]

I spoke to a haulier recently who told me UK lorry drivers aren’t allowed to pick up new loads in Europe once they’ve dropped off

whereas Eu drivers are allowed to do that here

they have to use toll roads in the Eu and pay road tax each time they cross over

dont know how true that is

[Nicepix 5,650]

12 hours ago, DIDO.1 said:

I get we want our fleet to grow, but we can't crew the boats we have. Most have philipppino crews. 

That is why it doesn't make sense to totally exclude the EU boats at the moment. They could be granted licences on an annual basis and be given less each year so the British fleet can invest and expand.

[dogmandont 10,059]

23 hours ago, foxdropper said:

That’s not sprayed just fresh cut mate .Sun bleached .Farmers don’t spray off silage grass ,trust me .

That field isn't fresh cut fd. 

 

[Tyla 3,179]

On 24/07/2020 at 20:16, WILF said:

A bit off topic but the same as farming, you can’t keep raping everything.....you have to take steps to regenerate.

Raping the sea bed, destroying soil by forcing crops with artificial fertiliser and spraying round up.......it’s the price of high volume, low cost food.

They reckon England has 50 harvests left !!.....50 !

The soil is in such poor condition from chemical wormers, fertiliser, round up, monoculture crops that it’s all done in 50 years ! It won’t sustain a thing on its own !

The consumer has to take a chunk of that blame.

I agree entirely. Have you read a book calked 'Feral' by George Monbiot? If you havent you ought to, its a real eye opener. I dont agree with sll his politics but the statistics he gives are mind boggling. Makes you reslize what we've done to the world and how fast