Whippet x Stag? Whippet Deer/Grey?

[Urbstar12 1]

  On 01/07/2020 at 17:07, C.green said:

Have you tried keeping the dog on the lean side ? 

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I absolutely hate a fat dog.   I keep my dogs extremely lean and take conditioning seriously.  That wasn’t the problem.  50% box-dog just slows down the lurcher. 

[C.green 3,231]

  On 01/07/2020 at 22:54, Urbstar12 said:

I absolutely hate a fat dog.   I keep my dogs extremely lean and take conditioning seriously.  That wasn’t the problem.  50% box-dog just slows down the lurcher. 

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No need to get defensive feller wasnt judging. Ive found alot of bull greyhound here are kept too heavy and trimmed down they have enough speed but do fade if goes on abit. Bull and greyhounds top of the tree when we talk canine athletes

[Urbstar12 1]

  On 01/07/2020 at 22:58, C.green said:

No need to get defensive feller wasnt judging. Ive found alot of bull greyhound here are kept too heavy and trimmed down they have enough speed but do fade if goes on abit. Bull and greyhounds top of the tree when we talk canine athletes

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You’re right, I apologize.  
 

My bull grey is a decent all around athlete with good feet.  (He ran a full marathon next to me on leash), he just doesn’t quite have the top end I need for the job I’m after. 

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  On 01/07/2020 at 16:44, Urbstar12 said:

Ijf, 

I have a APBTxGrey right now.  Both parents were accomplished in their own right.  I bred him when I was running deer and hogs.  He was a failed experiment.  He wasn’t really game enough for a big boar (he’s caught plenty of sow and shoats), and although I’ve had success with him on deer, I’d catch much more if he were faster.  
 

There are no coyote in my part of the state.  They’ll be here eventually but not yet.  Fox are fast but don’t take much of a dog to kill.  I’ve owned hunting dogs for a long time, just haven’t ventured into longdogs much.

I haven’t seen a Staghound yet that didn’t disappoint me with their speed compared to a greyhound.  The Stags I’ve seen aren’t much faster than my bull-grey, and he’s not fast enough.  

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We mainly use English bull terrier/greyhounds in Oz for all pigs,they just call them bullygreys.Most here have found the pit crosses are too game and reckless.The bullygreys are from many generations of pigdogs so really know their job.They would mainly use straight Oz staghounds or stag/greys for deer if it was legal .

[ijf 111]

  On 01/07/2020 at 16:44, Urbstar12 said:

Ijf, 

I have a APBTxGrey right now.  Both parents were accomplished in their own right.  I bred him when I was running deer and hogs.  He was a failed experiment.  He wasn’t really game enough for a big boar (he’s caught plenty of sow and shoats), and although I’ve had success with him on deer, I’d catch much more if he were faster.  
 

There are no coyote in my part of the state.  They’ll be here eventually but not yet.  Fox are fast but don’t take much of a dog to kill.  I’ve owned hunting dogs for a long time, just haven’t ventured into longdogs much.

I haven’t seen a Staghound yet that didn’t disappoint me with their speed compared to a greyhound.  The Stags I’ve seen aren’t much faster than my bull-grey, and he’s not fast enough.  

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Urbstar,

I know nothing about pig hunting so can't comment on that.

From what I have read the stag hounds/coyote hounds have bull in the breeding. As Blackneck and Riley said I'd be looking at the staghounds. A greyhound bitch and if she works try to cross her with a proven stag hound. IMO for day hunting like that you need a dog with brains to cut off stuff rather than just running after it. Best dogs I'v seen for that have had collie or dh in them. 

I've spent time in MD and PA the only foxes I saw were the small grey ones. I never saw any red fox. Are they plentiful where you are?

It would be some craic pushing covers there. Always wanted to do it. What dogs do you use to push the deer and fox? 

Edited July 2, 2020 by ijf

[sandymere 8,263]

If you want speed and size to conect asap then a Stag greyhound cross should meet the need. If want to maintain a bit more stamina, good feet etc then a stag cross Galgo might fit the bill.