villaman 9,983 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 What do you need to do for badger culling How do you get into it do need to go on courses , prove you can use a gun or what ? Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Shoot them I think..... 1 Quote Link to post
si brown 8,486 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Change your name and make sure you house is fully insured 3 5 Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Or go freelance! 1 Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 I believe culling has all but been abandoned in favour of vaccination following an ineffective and bungled culling program. At the time, effective vaccination couldn't be made as the TB test couldn't tell infected badgers from vaccinated ones. My understanding is there was far too much animal rights heat for the government to handle, the culling was piecemeal from what I read (rightly or wrongly) due to rules preventing shooting if members of the public were anywhere in the vicinity - by that read miles - not so much safety as it seems most weren't directly blocking sites standing in the line of fire or background, but I think the police feared public disorder, an accident from someone actually slipping through into the background, and the Government bad press so the rules were so strict many shoots were abandoned night after night. Animal rights activists patrolled footpaths near badger sets at night to prevent the shooting, and so the cull failed to show an improvement in transmission due to the low number of animals shot. There were tales in the newspapers of badgers being wounded from poorly taken shots and insufficient calibre - not sure where they got the shooters from or the stories if untrue, there were claims the .223 / .243 many were using were insufficient and wounding, plus the animal rights activists named their preventative patrols "wounded badger patrols" and many wore fluoresecent vests emblazaned with it on the back, presumably to convey the idea that badgers were being wounded wholesale and rescued by them to get the wider public on their side through propoganda. Would it have worked, maybe if 70% had been shot. However, now there's an effective vaccine test it's a far better route than shooting these majestic animals uneccessarily, as they have no real pest or adverse balance effect on the countryside as a whole. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51753393 1 Quote Link to post
Stavross 15,428 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 As far as I know ( I know someone who did it in Cumbria) the licensing needs to be applied for through DEFRA, if they grant the license after doing their checks and providing the land is in the cull area the shooter is named on the license and is the only person who can shoot, they must prove themselves to be a competent shot ( the lad I know is involved with the deer society) I think there’s a little training course, he only did it for a couple of months, he said the legislation is a mine field 3 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted June 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, si brown said: Change your name and make sure you house is fully insured Can’t make another Claim Quote Link to post
joe ox 2,574 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) . Edited June 21, 2020 by joe ox Quote Link to post
Tyla 3,179 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Avoid it like the plague. Brings nothing but trouble 5 Quote Link to post
Pirate 9000 676 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Every lad I know who's got involved in the cull has had more trouble than they could cope with, promised police protection crock of shit, and most lads paying out of their own pockets to do it, can't believe it's not been totally scraped by now. 6 Quote Link to post
ianm 2,594 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Alsone said: I believe culling has all but been abandoned in favour of vaccination following an ineffective and bungled culling program. At the time, effective vaccination couldn't be made as the TB test couldn't tell infected badgers from vaccinated ones. My understanding is there was far too much animal rights heat for the government to handle, the culling was piecemeal from what I read (rightly or wrongly) due to rules preventing shooting if members of the public were anywhere in the vicinity - by that read miles - not so much safety as it seems most weren't directly blocking sites standing in the line of fire or background, but I think the police feared public disorder, an accident from someone actually slipping through into the background, and the Government bad press so the rules were so strict many shoots were abandoned night after night. Animal rights activists patrolled footpaths near badger sets at night to prevent the shooting, and so the cull failed to show an improvement in transmission due to the low number of animals shot. There were tales in the newspapers of badgers being wounded from poorly taken shots and insufficient calibre - not sure where they got the shooters from or the stories if untrue, there were claims the .223 / .243 many were using were insufficient and wounding, plus the animal rights activists named their preventative patrols "wounded badger patrols" and many wore fluoresecent vests emblazaned with it on the back, presumably to convey the idea that badgers were being wounded wholesale and rescued by them to get the wider public on their side through propoganda. Would it have worked, maybe if 70% had been shot. However, now there's an effective vaccine test it's a far better route than shooting these majestic animals uneccessarily, as they have no real pest or adverse balance effect on the countryside as a whole. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51753393 You have got to be joking. When badgers are allowed to proliferate as they have done any wildlife on the ground suffers. They hoover up any ground nesting birds, decimate hedgehog numbers and will kill lambs no matter what what the bunny huggers say. 13 1 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted June 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Sausagedog said: Shoot them I think..... That was my first thought Thanks for conferring that most helpful 1 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted June 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Well I think I might give it a big Swerve only someone asked if I would like to go out with him and shoot a few with his 303 1 Quote Link to post
Pirate 9000 676 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 The whole cull was designed to be a failure from the start,it was given to the nfu to keep farmers happy, the scientific evidence regarding TB is pointing the problem of slurry being spread on grass and then fed back to cattle,if the government had wanted to seriously reduction in the badger population they would have just lifted them of the protected status,and far less easier for animal rights nutters to disrupt it 4 Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 4 hours ago, ianm said: You have got to be joking. When badgers are allowed to proliferate as they have done any wildlife on the ground suffers. They hoover up any ground nesting birds, decimate hedgehog numbers and will kill lambs no matter what what the bunny huggers say. Never heard of them being harmful but I'm far from a badger expert. So far as I was aware they like worms, slugs and carrion. Thanks for clearing that up. Never knew they attacked lambs and nesting birds. Quote Link to post
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