Tyson fury

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

6 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Are you ignorant enough to believe Holyfield was the only one on the gear in the 90's?

Ironic that you're calling Holyfield for his drug taking when in fact it's Fury who's tested positive for steroids. 

So Holyfield put on about a stone but so did Bowe, he still outweighed him by about 30lb.

Again my point still stands, the much smaller Holyfield beat a good fighter in Bowe. 

Also were have I called Holyfield for juicing or said he was the only one doing it? And more to the point what has it got to do with what were discussing?

Why they all on the juice if size don't really matter?

[Greb147 6,809]

13 minutes ago, JDHUNTING said:

Your point stands for f**k all, a more skilled smaller fighter lost to a less skilled bigger fighter so went on the gear to get BIGGER then won(just) hence proving as if we don't already know that size matters as much if not more than skill. 

Whose more skilled Lomachenko or Callum Smith? Who'd you put your dough on if they fought?

 Bowe still outweighed him by two stone, so basically still the same. 

And you don't think Holyfield had been on the roids before their first bout when he made the jump from CW to HW? 

You're getting silly again with these hypothetical bouts, it's there for you to see on tape a great smaller fighter beat a very good bigger fighter. 

Edited September 5, 2020 by Greb147

[Greb147 6,809]

9 minutes ago, JDHUNTING said:

Also were have I called Holyfield for juicing or said he was the only one doing it? And more to the point what has it got to do with what were discussing?

Why they all on the juice if size don't really matter?

Who said it doesn't matter, of course it does. 

The facts though are it's not the only factor in a fight, it can be an advantage or a disadvantage depending on the circumstances. 

Regarding juice, you're better off asking Tyson Fury why he got on the nandrolone. 

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

3 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

 Bowe still outweighed him by two stone, so basically still the same. 

And you don't think Holyfield had been on the roids before their first bout when he made the jump from CW to HW? 

You're getting silly again with these hypothetical bouts, it's there for you to see on tape a great smaller fighter beat a very good larger fighter. 

And it's on tape Holyfield getting beat off valuev a great smaller HW getting beat by an absolute pile of steaming dogshit giant.

I'm done going round in circles have a good evening

[Greb147 6,809]

5 minutes ago, JDHUNTING said:

And it's on tape Holyfield getting beat off valuev a great smaller HW getting beat by an absolute pile of steaming dogshit giant.

I'm done going round in circles have a good evening

You do know that Holyfield was 137 years old and was robbed as well, you're on the ropes here fella.  

Let's just agree to disagree, Fury is not even the best HW in the last 20 years let alone of all time IMO. 

[Jonjon79 13,358]

That's the thing - Fury isn't one of the all time greats but, he's doing well in his group and, he's a  character. 

 ........ I like him for all his messing about and flambouyance - he's interesting and he's winning. 

 

I do think that he would have probably been unheard of if he'd been in the same generation as Foreman and Ali but, he's not.

 .......... I like him and, I hope he goes on to win all of the heavyweight belts. 

[Greb147 6,809]

16 minutes ago, Jonjon79 said:

That's the thing - Fury isn't one of the all time greats but, he's doing well in his group and, he's a  character. 

 ........ I like him for all his messing about and flambouyance - he's interesting and he's winning. 

 

I do think that he would have probably been unheard of if he'd been in the same generation as Foreman and Ali but, he's not.

 .......... I like him and, I hope he goes on to win all of the heavyweight belts. 

I like the fella as well, yes he can be a clown but I'd sooner have a pint with him over the likes of AJ and Whyte. 

Edited September 5, 2020 by Greb147

[Blackmag 6,116]

Lewis Tyson holifield  in recent times would of beat fury aj has fought constantly against better opponents than most of furys hand picked fights but I do like him and respect what's he's done 

[South hams hunter 8,934]

6 hours ago, ihunter said:

I’m a fury fan, I’m just not deluded enough to think he will ever be included in the worlds best ever boxers list.....I was comparing fighters they both fought in their prime years. But don’t listen to me, I know sweet fa about boxing in truth.......however if you can find any video or quote from anyone with decent knowledge of boxing, some one who had been in the game for years and has a respected opinion that says fury would beat Ali by the end of today I will send you £50 

Max knows a trainer personally that trained them both ... Will that be cash or cheque?

[South hams hunter 8,934]

3 hours ago, JDHUNTING said:

Course it does but when your talking about two people at the very pinnacle of their sport then they both clearly have ability, one of them has a 6 inch height and 60lb weight advantage though.

But never had enough power to knock anyone out 

[shaaark 10,916]

40 minutes ago, Jonjon79 said:

That's the thing - Fury isn't one of the all time greats but, he's doing well in his group and, he's a  character. 

 ........ I like him for all his messing about and flambouyance - he's interesting and he's winning. 

 

I do think that he would have probably been unheard of if he'd been in the same generation as Foreman and Ali but, he's not.

 .......... I like him and, I hope he goes on to win all of the heavyweight belts. 

Agree with everything you say, apart from your last sentence

[Blackmag 6,116]

21 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

Max knows a trainer personally that trained them both ... Will that be cash or cheque?

Max couldn't find his way home unless he had chalk marks on the kerb let alone about boxing fact 

[Blackmag 6,116]

27 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

Lucky Brass Cocks point the way oh obsessed one

Didn't do you much good today  

[Greb147 6,809]

3 minutes ago, Rusty_terrier said:

Talent and ability are miles apart but fury would be far too big for ali. Who was alis biggest opponent "big george foreman" who would be considered small compared to heavyweights these days

Big George Formby wasn't as big as Ernie Terrell or Jozsef Kreul Bugner. 

[Greb147 6,809]

2 minutes ago, Rusty_terrier said:

Ernie Terrell was a skinny prick

A miles better singer than Fury.