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Been all around rifles for a few decades.

17Rem, 22Hx3, 222x3, 223, 6mmx3, 6.5mm, 30/30x3, 308x2. 357m. Reloaded the lot. 

Do I shoot less now I just have two rimfires (excluding deer)? No!

So in other words I don't get stressed about calibre's. I use to. Waste of time though.

 

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I'll take the calibre that's as lethal as some of the keyboards on here! 

I'm going to have a go. See what  all the fuss is over! Fed up with the 22 anyway. I'm going.....are you sitting down..... Go for a 17 hmr! Now you have a short time to talk m

How did you measure the 154yds, by pacing it out? Did you have your shoe laces tied together? ? 

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4 minutes ago, philpot said:

Just to throw a spanner in the works, I shoot 90% of my rabbits with my FX Impact .25 fac air rifle out to 100mt+ and 300 pellets cost me £11ish  ?  but of course as a retired ole tart I have to watch the pennies although I would really like to have a .223 in the cabinet but it is on hold again.............

Phil

Phil, I couldn't possibly tell here what I have taken with air rifles! Crack on feller ?

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1 minute ago, Sausagedog said:

Been all around rifles for a few decades.

17Rem, 22Hx3, 222x3, 223, 6mmx3, 6.5mm, 30/30x3, 308x2. 357m. Reloaded the lot. 

Do I shoot less now I just have two rimfires (excluding deer)? No!

So in other words I don't get stressed about calibre's. I use to. Waste of time though.

 

Well said that man, it doesn't really matter what you have in the cabinet,  just use what you have and enjoy it.  In clay shooting we get the 'must have'  situation when the top shots are using guns costing over £10k so in order to match their score, you must have the same.....................................not !!!!!     As you know Duncan Lawton won the world championship with a knackered remmy 1100 that he would fix as he went round the course.

Calibre is not quite the same thing but you take my point hopefully.

Phil

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1 hour ago, Deker said:

 

Tools for the job!

The .22 has it's uses, so does the WMR, HMR, etc etc

I don't follow....."I tend to favour one of my 204s over any grimfire".   Rimfires offer a lot of versatility, and many find them very useful.

You don't like the HMR, your choice, and the .204 is a rather marmite calibre, seems people love or hate them, fact is...……….

You don't need a .204 for rabbits unless you are shooting them in the next county, a bit of clout doesn't mean it's the best tool for the job, otherwise people would use their .308 for the rabbit and this "can" happen, whilst it may look like a shotgun it was one centrefire shot!!

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I will decide what i need not you. Rabbits aren't such a problem here that i have to shoot hundreds or thousands so i like to head shoot them at three or four hundred yards. 

It is good practise for when i have to shoot foxes at similar distances and i only have a partial target.

Shame you don't do it then you wouldn't of made a mess of the rabbit with your ruined 243. 

204 isn't such a marmite calibre as you call it in these parts. I know of at least a dozen lads who have chopped in their 223s for a 204. Why? because they are shooting at extended ranges at night out of necessity. It is only marmite to people who are so old fashioned they cannot think out of the box.

I have a bit of fun with the lads in this section regarding HMR all tongue in cheek as you would know if you had spent a bit more time looking in.

I will guarantee you have never owned and tried a 204, so until you have your opinions aren't worth the time it takes to write them.

Is it the best for everyone? no and neither is 223, 243 et al.  

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10 minutes ago, ianm said:

I will decide what i need not you. Rabbits aren't such a problem here that i have to shoot hundreds or thousands so i like to head shoot them at three or four hundred yards. 

It is good practise for when i have to shoot foxes at similar distances and i only have a partial target.

Shame you don't do it then you wouldn't of made a mess of the rabbit with your ruined 243. 

204 isn't such a marmite calibre as you call it in these parts. I know of at least a dozen lads who have chopped in their 223s for a 204. Why? because they are shooting at extended ranges at night out of necessity. It is only marmite to people who are so old fashioned they cannot think out of the box.

I have a bit of fun with the lads in this section regarding HMR all tongue in cheek as you would know if you had spent a bit more time looking in.

I will guarantee you have never owned and tried a 204, so until you have your opinions aren't worth the time it takes to write them.

Is it the best for everyone? no and neither is 223, 243 et al.  

I don't know anyone with a .204 which is a pity as I would love to try one and .40p per round is not so bad, wonder how much a .204 round is to buy in the shop.

Phil

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22 minutes ago, philpot said:

Well said that man, it doesn't really matter what you have in the cabinet,  just use what you have and enjoy it.  In clay shooting we get the 'must have'  situation when the top shots are using guns costing over £10k so in order to match their score, you must have the same.....................................not !!!!!     As you know Duncan Lawton won the world championship with a knackered remmy 1100 that he would fix as he went round the course.

Calibre is not quite the same thing but you take my point hopefully.

Phil

I fell into the “must have” trap years ago , and chopped in my trusty old MK38 for a Perazzi MX8 because George Digweed had one and if it’s good enough for George then it will definitely improve my scores . In short it didn’t, in fact it took ages before I got back to where I had been with my Miroku. Then he went over to Kemen , and I started to think , maybe I should get a Kemen ? To cut a long story short I’m back to a MK38 and I’m just happy being a mediocre clay shot .

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1 hour ago, foxdropper said:

Got to smile when you read someone reckons x calibre is the dogs danglies .They all perform according to the man at the fat end .
Love my .223 but is it the best foxing round ,no it’s just my choice .Love the .243 but is it the best deer round ,probably .?

Calibre is down to personal  choice and as you say it doesnt matter as long as you like it for your chosen needs. We all shoot different quarry on different terrain so what is suitable for one may not be suitable for another. I love my .243 but mention that on the SD and you will be slated , it's a girly gun and all that ?? For rabbits I prefer my .22LR my .17 HMR doesnt get out much , may have to take it out and have a play with it.?

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39 minutes ago, ianm said:

I will decide what i need not you. Rabbits aren't such a problem here that i have to shoot hundreds or thousands so i like to head shoot them at three or four hundred yards. 

It is good practise for when i have to shoot foxes at similar distances and i only have a partial target.

Shame you don't do it then you wouldn't of made a mess of the rabbit with your ruined 243. 

204 isn't such a marmite calibre as you call it in these parts. I know of at least a dozen lads who have chopped in their 223s for a 204. Why? because they are shooting at extended ranges at night out of necessity. It is only marmite to people who are so old fashioned they cannot think out of the box.

I have a bit of fun with the lads in this section regarding HMR all tongue in cheek as you would know if you had spent a bit more time looking in.

I will guarantee you have never owned and tried a 204, so until you have your opinions aren't worth the time it takes to write them. Is it the best for everyone? no and neither is 223, 243 et al.  

Just like I said...…………  Tools for the job!

Calm down, it is true that I have never owned a .204, but I have used one several times and been out with a pal who owned one many times (he is also in the Team GB Squad).   I suspect I have probably used far more calibres than you, both in the field and on the range, and try and keep abreast of anything new.

If you want to use the .204 for rabbits or target practice for fox, that's your choice.   

My light hearted comment.....You don't need a .204 for rabbits unless you are shooting them in the next county is correct, and backed up by your comment "Why? because they are shooting at extended ranges at night out of necessity".   You can use them to shoot mice in a barn if you want, doesn't mean you need a .204 for that job!

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23 minutes ago, shovel leaner said:

I fell into the “must have” trap years ago , and chopped in my trusty old MK38 for a Perazzi MX8 because George Digweed had one and if it’s good enough for George then it will definitely improve my scores . In short it didn’t, in fact it took ages before I got back to where I had been with my Miroku. Then he went over to Kemen , and I started to think , maybe I should get a Kemen ? To cut a long story short I’m back to a MK38 and I’m just happy being a mediocre clay shot .

Must admit to liking the Perazzi MT6 I had many years ago but always come back to Beretta although I have been looking for a s/h Keman trap for a year or two now and perhaps one day the right one will drop into my line of sight.

Phil

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12 minutes ago, Deker said:

Just like I said...…………  Tools for the job!

Calm down, it is true that I have never owned a .204, but I have used one several times and been out with a pal who owned one many times (he is also in the Team GB Squad).   I suspect I have probably used far more calibres than you, both in the field and on the range, and try and keep abreast of anything new.

If you want to use the .204 for rabbits or target practice for fox, that's your choice.   

My light hearted comment.....You don't need a .204 for rabbits unless you are shooting them in the next county is correct, and backed up by your comment "Why? because they are shooting at extended ranges at night out of necessity".   You can use them to shoot mice in a barn if you want, doesn't mean you need a .204 for that job!

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Just like i said... you have never owned one so your opinion isn't worth a jot and i don't care if your mate is Annie Oakley.

Just get one thing straight my name isn't Alsone and you have decided to lecture the wrong bloke.

 You never write anything light hearted you lecture people and try to brow beat them into accepting your old fashioned ideas are the best. Well i have news for you and it's all bad, your ideas aren't always the best.

To be honest i have watched you on threads for a good while and you certainly come across as a condescending know all sort of c**t.

As per your statement " i have probably used more calibres than you". You are assuming that, you know nothing about me and for the record i would bet you're wrong on that as well. Keep your worthless opinions to yourself and go back to paper punching with Annie. 

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52 minutes ago, philpot said:

Must admit to liking the Perazzi MT6 I had many years ago but always come back to Beretta although I have been looking for a s/h Keman trap for a year or two now and perhaps one day the right one will drop into my line of sight.

Phil

I always fancied a DT10 , a superb clay gun IMO . The Perazzi was nice though , can’t fault the V spring triggers , like silk !

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4 minutes ago, shovel leaner said:

I always fancied a DT10 , a superb clay gun IMO . The Perazzi was nice though , can’t fault the V spring triggers , like silk !

My muzzleloaders and Tula sxs also has them V spring thingies. 

I didna realize I had such high end guns ?

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