Test curve to rod action conversion?

[NEWKID 27,159]

1 hour ago, JDHUNTING said:

Are you going to use a chainsaw or a junior hacksaw

That made me laugh..

 

[Wolfdog91 7,046]

So sorry it took me so long tp responf lol ! I actually red through tho post multiple time through the day to day and honestly......yeah I kinda need a translator lol.

Somone mentioned just buying a heavy Barble rod on Amazon. Well to that I gotta say yeah I could do that buuuuut egh.  I already have plenty of rods I know for a fact I can just horse a carp on to the bank with . Honestly wouldnt be much of a fight with my larger catfish rods.  The two 8' ones I made with medium action salt water blanks definetly would take all the fun out of it.  A 40lbs buffalo or somthing like that might be a differnt story but a farm pond carp... not much fun there. Then I can go to Wal-Mart  with $20 and get any random medium spinning rod and I'll do about what I want. BuT the deal is I just really wanna build one from a blank up , catch a fish on a rod you built for that purpose is much more satisfying imo.

Actually here's some of the rods from my current collection.

The two two are 7'6 Mitchell's epics the middle two are Ozark trail grit sticks ( Wal-Mart's knock off of the ugly stick GTX imo but  $20 for the combo I can't common too much ) and I use these for everything from bait fishing ( like catching live bait )  catching bluegill ,catfish ,carp and so on. Not perfect but they work pretty well

Bottom two black ones are my first two build. Their 8 foot salt water medium action blanks, with 550 cord handles ones a bait caster and the other is a spinning .

Then top white one is a 8' walmart brand and the bottom is a Shakespeare tiger

And please excuse my shotty hanging lol, keep making to go and re do the screws

[Wolfdog91 7,046]

8 hours ago, JDHUNTING said:

Were just an aggressive race eh wolfdog

Stick some pics of your catches up fella be nice to see what you catch out there. 

Any Alligator gar in your neck of the woods?there on my bucket list

Lol haven't been able to catch anything worth posting in a while to be honest.

And we do have gator gar but not as plentiful as other places. Mainly the smaller species like long nose gar.

Couple of bream ( Well not your bream their really blue gill but it's kinda an umbrella term for pan fish)

And just a pair of small channel cat fish from the park lake last week

[Wolfdog91 7,046]

14 hours ago, JDHUNTING said:

The arsyness was replying in kind. And I couldn't agree more you match the tackle to what's best for fish and angler which is why when replying to a bloke in North America who I presumed to be fishing some huge river or atleast would have access to such would prob be better with a stronger rod, then he confirmed it with talk of alarms and a pod i.e your typical UK carper style (not my cup of tea btw if I'm carping I'm generally fishing off the top with I lighter rod for a bit of fun). 

Well I am from the us lol but I fish differently depending on the water way and fish I'm targeting, and really my mood that day lol.

About all the carp fishing I do is in ponds and smaller lakes. Honestly I find the way you guys in the UK fish very interesting for the most part. Fishing in the US can get kinda boring at, least for me. Probably dosent help I get bored if things in general pretty quick regardless lol.

 It's always ugly stick GTX with a Carolina rig 7/0 hook bluegill head for for bait ,pound a piece of PVC pipe in the bank for a rod holder and sit there and wait for a catfish   ,Boring! Then I hear you guys with all your alarms ,rod pods, halibut pellets ,boilies hair rigs and so on and it much more interesting.  Honestlythink it's over complicated alot of times but extremely,extreamly interesting.  Not to mention  eaious things you guy do I've found is very effective over here, mabye for different reasons. Like hair rigs startd messing around with them and found that a hair rig and boile is actually very effective on channel catfish and reduces my turtle catches to almost zero. Will say though guys over hear will try to laugh you off the pond show you show them one.  The idea of not directly hooking your bait to your hook is looked at as well beyond idiotic and over complicated  by many.

And these alarms are somthing wonderful ! Just got mine the other day and made some pods and I fell in love with them no need to set out fighting the horse flies and mosquitoes the while time just set the rods out on the pods and sit in my truck  with the a.c. 

With all that being said if I'm on the river of somwhere where I'm targeting large catfish or somthing then its a different story.

[Nicepix 5,650]

4 hours ago, Wolfdog91 said:

Well I am from the us lol but I fish differently depending on the water way and fish I'm targeting, and really my mood that day lol.

About all the carp fishing I do is in ponds and smaller lakes. Honestly I find the way you guys in the UK fish very interesting for the most part. Fishing in the US can get kinda boring at, least for me. Probably dosent help I get bored if things in general pretty quick regardless lol.

 It's always ugly stick GTX with a Carolina rig 7/0 hook bluegill head for for bait ,pound a piece of PVC pipe in the bank for a rod holder and sit there and wait for a catfish   ,Boring! Then I hear you guys with all your alarms ,rod pods, halibut pellets ,boilies hair rigs and so on and it much more interesting.  Honestlythink it's over complicated alot of times but extremely,extreamly interesting.  Not to mention  eaious things you guy do I've found is very effective over here, mabye for different reasons. Like hair rigs startd messing around with them and found that a hair rig and boile is actually very effective on channel catfish and reduces my turtle catches to almost zero. Will say though guys over hear will try to laugh you off the pond show you show them one.  The idea of not directly hooking your bait to your hook is looked at as well beyond idiotic and over complicated  by many.

And these alarms are somthing wonderful ! Just got mine the other day and made some pods and I fell in love with them no need to set out fighting the horse flies and mosquitoes the while time just set the rods out on the pods and sit in my truck  with the a.c. 

With all that being said if I'm on the river of somwhere where I'm targeting large catfish or somthing then its a different story.

Carp fishing is over complicated if you follow the herd. Carp fashion is driven by two things; money for the tackle trade and blindly copying tactics and equipment used in successful captures even though the circumstances bear no resemblance to the fishing they encounter.

It can be made as simple as you like and this is equally if not more so exciting. You have already expressed a desire not to go too heavy and bully the fish in so look back a few years before the arms race began and look at tactics and rods used in the 1960's and 70's. You can buy rod blanks from UK sources in the strength and action that you choose, however they will be a lot more expensive than what you currently own. Another option is to look on ebay.uk for what we call 'Old Skool' rods made out of fibreglass. You can pick these up for a few £s in some cases if they are in bad shape. Then strip the blank and re-build to your own tastes. It will be made more difficult with the postal costs, but that is the nature of the beast. Another option is to look at some of the longer lure rods that you have over there. I have an 8 foot Ugly Stick 14-20g that has handled catfish to 35lb but is a little too short for general fishing. A 10 foot version if it exists might be a good option. We Europeans use longer rods than you in the States are used to.

One of the most exciting forms of carp fishing is what is called 'stalking'. That is finding a feeding fish that is close in and casting to it rather than baiting a swim up and then fishing it with multiple rods for days on end. Stalking involves skills used in hunting such as stealth. You learn to identify places where carp will be due to season, weather and water conditions. And you only need a minimum of tackle as it is a mobile form of fishing.

The main thing is to fish how you want to fish and don't take any notice of those who use 'fish welfare' as a way of avoiding questions about their own methods. Often it is down to their personal interpretations of what is right and you have just as much right to use what you think is suitable.

 

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

5 hours ago, Wolfdog91 said:

Well I am from the us lol but I fish differently depending on the water way and fish I'm targeting, and really my mood that day lol.

About all the carp fishing I do is in ponds and smaller lakes. Honestly I find the way you guys in the UK fish very interesting for the most part. Fishing in the US can get kinda boring at, least for me. Probably dosent help I get bored if things in general pretty quick regardless lol.

 It's always ugly stick GTX with a Carolina rig 7/0 hook bluegill head for for bait ,pound a piece of PVC pipe in the bank for a rod holder and sit there and wait for a catfish   ,Boring! Then I hear you guys with all your alarms ,rod pods, halibut pellets ,boilies hair rigs and so on and it much more interesting.  Honestlythink it's over complicated alot of times but extremely,extreamly interesting.  Not to mention  eaious things you guy do I've found is very effective over here, mabye for different reasons. Like hair rigs startd messing around with them and found that a hair rig and boile is actually very effective on channel catfish and reduces my turtle catches to almost zero. Will say though guys over hear will try to laugh you off the pond show you show them one.  The idea of not directly hooking your bait to your hook is looked at as well beyond idiotic and over complicated  by many.

And these alarms are somthing wonderful ! Just got mine the other day and made some pods and I fell in love with them no need to set out fighting the horse flies and mosquitoes the while time just set the rods out on the pods and sit in my truck  with the a.c. 

With all that being said if I'm on the river of somwhere where I'm targeting large catfish or somthing then its a different story.

Good stuff pal that river looks interesting. Sounds like your attitude to fishing is similar to mine I reckon I've tried just about every method of fishing for almost every species of UK fish it's the best way to be imo rather than limiting your enjoyment with some strange dogma and you'll be a better angler for the experience to boot. We have guys over here with a similar attitude as you've probably picked up . Hair rigs and bolt rigs are deadly that's why they have become so popular over here but they do lend themselves to lazy anglers hence the term bivvy queen's over here but there's a time and place for every method really. You ever thought about a boat? It opens a whole new world of of opportunities and different methods again and has the added bonus of keeping you away from the boring kunts you get stuck with on the bank telling you your doing it all wrong. The US are the king's of fishing boats I know a lot of guys whose imported them from there and they are lightyears Infront of our boats.

I sometimes have the perception it's all milk and honey re fishing in the States but I suppose it's a massive place and can take some travelling to get you into a different kind of environment? Were lucky in some respects here I've wild Scottish lochs, powerful spate rivers and meandering chalk streams all within a few hours drive and there's pretty much no were you can't get to for even just a day's fishing. Though a 7 hour drive to the Highlands if Scotland fished all day and drove home nearly polished me off one time. there's so much water here we are spoiled. Mind it does rain what feels like 90% of the time. Ireland has even more but unfortunately the authorities are stuck in a dogmatic mindset and spend half there funding trying to kill their own fish but it's a special place for anglers all the same more blue than green on the map almost.

[ChrisJones 7,975]

3 hours ago, JDHUNTING said:

I sometimes have the perception it's all milk and honey re fishing in the States but I suppose it's a massive place and can take some travelling to get you into a different kind of environment?

Varies from state to state. That's all the same place and you can fish rivers and reservoir. Even ice fish it in the winter. Few hours west from @Wolfdog91 but whatever you want to fish, you can.

Edited June 7, 2020 by ChrisJones

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

3 minutes ago, ChrisJones said:

Varies from state to state. That's all the same place and you can fish rivers and reservoir. Even ice fish it in the winter. Few hours west from @Wolfdog91 but whatever you want to fish, you can.

Nice my kind of countryside, what do you get?any big muskies?

[ChrisJones 7,975]

4 minutes ago, JDHUNTING said:

Nice my kind of countryside, what do you get?any big muskies?

That's less than 10 miles from where I'm sat, believe it or not. That water is mainly rainbow trout with a few cutthroats now and again. Our summer climate gets really hot so pike and muskie don't fair well. You have to go a little further north but there is some quality pike and muskie fishing to be had if you're willing to drive a couple of hours, and to be honest on our roads it's easy to get to if you avoid the peak tourist season.

30 miles south we have some superb bass lakes. 20 north we have state record wipers that'll break gear if you hook into one wrong. As someone that's lost a few rods to the wipers I agree with you about taking the right gear, but to be fair I wasn't fishing for them at the time! It's been an expensive lesson!

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

1 minute ago, ChrisJones said:

That's less than 10 miles from where I'm sat, believe it or not. That water is mainly rainbow trout with a few cutthroats now and again. Our summer climate gets really hot so pike and muskie don't fair well. You have to go a little further north but there is some quality pike and muskie fishing to be had if you're willing to drive a couple of hours, and to be honest on our roads it's easy to get to if you avoid the peak tourist season.

30 miles south we have some superb bass lakes. 20 north we have state record wipers that'll break gear if you hook into one wrong. As someone that's lost a few rods to the wipers I agree with you about taking the right gear, but to be fair I wasn't fishing for them at the time! It's been an expensive lesson!

I'd never heard of wipers just had a quick Google they look decent sport, look like a pot bellied sea bass I'll bet they go a bit. 

[low plains drifter 10,555]

On 05/06/2020 at 21:09, WILF said:

Or you could forget the rod and just “Bust a cap in its ass” lol

Joke by the way before anyone gets all  emotional !

You're not much use to me alive are you Turkish ?

[Wolfdog91 7,046]

On 07/06/2020 at 02:22, Nicepix said:

Carp fishing is over complicated if you follow the herd. Carp fashion is driven by two things; money for the tackle trade and blindly copying tactics and equipment used in successful captures even though the circumstances bear no resemblance to the fishing they encounter.

It can be made as simple as you like and this is equally if not more so exciting. You have already expressed a desire not to go too heavy and bully the fish in so look back a few years before the arms race began and look at tactics and rods used in the 1960's and 70's. You can buy rod blanks from UK sources in the strength and action that you choose, however they will be a lot more expensive than what you currently own. Another option is to look on ebay.uk for what we call 'Old Skool' rods made out of fibreglass. You can pick these up for a few £s in some cases if they are in bad shape. Then strip the blank and re-build to your own tastes. It will be made more difficult with the postal costs, but that is the nature of the beast. Another option is to look at some of the longer lure rods that you have over there. I have an 8 foot Ugly Stick 14-20g that has handled catfish to 35lb but is a little too short for general fishing. A 10 foot version if it exists might be a good option. We Europeans use longer rods than you in the States are used to.

One of the most exciting forms of carp fishing is what is called 'stalking'. That is finding a feeding fish that is close in and casting to it rather than baiting a swim up and then fishing it with multiple rods for days on end. Stalking involves skills used in hunting such as stealth. You learn to identify places where carp will be due to season, weather and water conditions. And you only need a minimum of tackle as it is a mobile form of fishing.

The main thing is to fish how you want to fish and don't take any notice of those who use 'fish welfare' as a way of avoiding questions about their own methods. Often it is down to their personal interpretations of what is right and you have just as much right to use what you think is suitable.

 

It's The same way with ,well most type if fishing over here, eveyone just does what they see eveyone elese doing without thinking it through. If you go on any of the bass,catfish,crappie, muskie and so on face book groups you always see the same two or three questions almost every day 

What's the best Bait for ( insert fish)

What's the best Rod for ( inset fish)

What's the best Line for (insert fish)

And of course all the experts say some name brand or the exact opposite and say all you got to do is. Then when you go in and say well it really depends on your water way,the fish that time of the year your region, water temps,how far you need to cast, current ,bait fish in that water way so on and so on folks look at you like your crazy. Basically eveyone seems to wanna be able to just buy what their told to fish it how their told to and catch a fish like eveyone else. Kind of pitiful and boring if you ask me. Not to mention all the fad chasers. " your not a real flathead chaser if your not running 4 $120 whisker seeker rods with $75 Abu Garcia's ( and only the Swedish made ones ) 40lbs slime line , only team catfish double action cirle hooks and demon dragons" they say.  The largemouth guys are even worse !

 And I can buy a full size specialty carp blank direct from the UK but I'm looking at $200. Mabye $150 shipped from a US based place. That's why I was asking about a conversion because I can get a CRB blank under 8' for like $35. Anything over 8' is an extra $35 of more shipping.

And yes I gotta say staking carp is one of my favorite ways ! Actually how i started carp fishing. Would watch them feeding in the shallow parts of the pond and crawl up enough real stealth like and cast just in front of em. Had to make sure the sun was in my face and everything.  Had to be super careful with the cast too, to close they scared away too far and they wouldn't even notice .

Edited June 9, 2020 by Wolfdog91

[Wolfdog91 7,046]

On 07/06/2020 at 04:03, JDHUNTING said:

Good stuff pal that river looks interesting. Sounds like your attitude to fishing is similar to mine I reckon I've tried just about every method of fishing for almost every species of UK fish it's the best way to be imo rather than limiting your enjoyment with some strange dogma and you'll be a better angler for the experience to boot. We have guys over here with a similar attitude as you've probably picked up . Hair rigs and bolt rigs are deadly that's why they have become so popular over here but they do lend themselves to lazy anglers hence the term bivvy queen's over here but there's a time and place for every method really. You ever thought about a boat? It opens a whole new world of of opportunities and different methods again and has the added bonus of keeping you away from the boring kunts you get stuck with on the bank telling you your doing it all wrong. The US are the king's of fishing boats I know a lot of guys whose imported them from there and they are lightyears Infront of our boats.

I sometimes have the perception it's all milk and honey re fishing in the States but I suppose it's a massive place and can take some travelling to get you into a different kind of environment? Were lucky in some respects here I've wild Scottish lochs, powerful spate rivers and meandering chalk streams all within a few hours drive and there's pretty much no were you can't get to for even just a day's fishing. Though a 7 hour drive to the Highlands if Scotland fished all day and drove home nearly polished me off one time. there's so much water here we are spoiled. Mind it does rain what feels like 90% of the time. Ireland has even more but unfortunately the authorities are stuck in a dogmatic mindset and spend half there funding trying to kill their own fish but it's a special place for anglers all the same more blue than green on the map almost.

Yeah that's the Homochitto  sresch across the entire state if I remember correctly we all pronounce it Homa-chitta southern accent and all that  also who wants to say Homo-chit-o but yeah supposed to be some monsters in there but so far with 10 or so trips down there the only thing I've got is stuck up to my truck frame in sand and a headache. Dang current skipped 10oz  of flat lead weights across the bottom like a plastic bag in the wind. 

But yeah I'm like you and have to experiment. It drives folks crazy I noticed because I always sue something very different than the norm. Like I was brim fishing  at a local park the other week. Had one of those real thin long floats I see you UK boys use alot ,think their called either a waggler or crystal can't remember . Anyhow I had it weighted like I learned off a tench fishing video so less than a half inch or so was sticking out of the water.  I'm getting ready and a fella comes by , starts talking . Well I cast my line in and he says "your float is too small dang bream can pull it right under  and your split shot are too high up your bait is going to sink too slow " I say well yeah exactly why I use it. He just  shook his head and set up a few yards down the bank well ten minutes later and 25 or so fish on my end later he was mad as could be. Walked over and told me 'ain't no way I can catch fish like that " I just laughed and pulled in another Seems every other pond ,lake ,creek  or river I hit requires a different approach for the same fish so experimenting is worth it  in my book.

I keep saying I'm going to get myself a used John boat and fix it up  ( every coona$$ down here has one or two in there yards ) but everytime I get the money to buy one somthing breaks and needs to be fixed or no one wants to sell. Can't wait to get one though , be great to ba able to run limb and bank lines as well as hoopnets and gillnets from the water. And like Chris said you don't have to go far in most states to get a different deal. No to mention different states. Southern states have the most liberal laws where the northern states are beyond a pain in alot of ways. Licenses are higher need apical tags for this and that can't use live bait this time of the year gotta be over a certain age so on and so on. I'm my state generally all it is is buy a $30 freshwater license or $40 for a commercial and I think salt water ( gulf coast is like two hours away) is like $35 and that only when your over the age of 16. And will say Scotlands water ways look beautiful! Zero idea how I'd fish those deep lochs but still. Accored to the old man my family is actually about 20%scott

[South hams hunter 8,922]

7 hours ago, Wolfdog91 said:

It's The same way with ,well most type if fishing over here, eveyone just does what they see eveyone elese doing without thinking it through. If you go on any of the bass,catfish,crappie, muskie and so on face book groups you always see the same two or three questions almost every day 

What's the best Bait for ( insert fish)

What's the best Rod for ( inset fish)

What's the best Line for (insert fish)

And of course all the experts say some name brand or the exact opposite and say all you got to do is. Then when you go in and say well it really depends on your water way,the fish that time of the year your region, water temps,how far you need to cast, current ,bait fish in that water way so on and so on folks look at you like your crazy. Basically eveyone seems to wanna be able to just buy what their told to fish it how their told to and catch a fish like eveyone else. Kind of pitiful and boring if you ask me. Not to mention all the fad chasers. " your not a real flathead chaser if your not running 4 $120 whisker seeker rods with $75 Abu Garcia's ( and only the Swedish made ones ) 40lbs slime line , only team catfish double action cirle hooks and demon dragons" they say.  The largemouth guys are even worse !

 And I can buy a full size specialty carp blank direct from the UK but I'm looking at $200. Mabye $150 shipped from a US based place. That's why I was asking about a conversion because I can get a CRB blank under 8' for like $35. Anything over 8' is an extra $35 of more shipping.

And yes I gotta say staking carp is one of my favorite ways ! Actually how i started carp fishing. Would watch them feeding in the shallow parts of the pond and crawl up enough real stealth like and cast just in front of em. Had to make sure the sun was in my face and everything.  Had to be super careful with the cast too, to close they scared away too far and they wouldn't even notice .

Think that's where alot of the difference starts; even an 8ft rod over here would be 2 piece. Why not look at an 11ft 2 piece blank? 

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