JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Nicepix said: You have no idea how that fish was lost. It could have been a dodgy knot or the line being cut on something sharp. No one is advocating 1lb tc for this situation. But I know from my own experience of fishing for wild, uncaught carp a lot bigger than the 15lb fish he expects that a rod of 2lb tc or less is ample, probably 1.5lb tc would be ideal. Regards the situation in France; there are catfish in my area of 100lb or more. They will take baits set out for barbel and carp what is JDHunting advocating; we all fish with 6lb tc rods and 100lb line for barbel just in case a catfish comes along? Bear in mind that most of the barbel are 3lb or less and most carp I catch on quiver gear are mid teens to mid twenties. So I set out my tackle for the species and size I expect to encounter and if a really big catfish comes along I just accept the inevitable break of the hook link. It was lost because of inadequate tackle if it was caught in something sharp it was still lost because of inadequate tackle as a thicker line and a sliding float would have stopped it snapping or getting caught in the first place. And the rest of it you pretty much saying what I'm saying so I don't know were you think I'm advocating 6lb TC rods for barbel. And thanks for confirming what I already know if you catch a catfish on light gear a broken line is nearly inevitable hence if you were targeting large catfish you wouldn't use it. Anyone can wind a hooked fish in its not really skillful at all and anyone whose grown up tenching on float gear or similar will quickly learn to tread carefully to land a powerful fish on light gear as I said it's pretty simple my (at the time) 4 year old lad managed it just fine it's reading the water, finding the fish and getting them to fall for the trap were the experience comes in and the heavier your tackle the harder that is. Little lads first fish when he was 4, and first trout not long after he reeled them in himself on a little 9ft light feeder, I rigged them up and cast them out for him Edited June 7, 2020 by JDHUNTING 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 This is what I sound like to normal people when I talk isn't it... 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: This is what I sound like to normal people when I talk isn't it... Im happier talking fishing than immigrants Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,800 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: This is what I sound like to normal people when I talk isn't it... No this Cheers, D. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 41 minutes ago, JDHUNTING said: It was lost because of inadequate tackle if it was caught in something sharp it was still lost because of inadequate tackle as a thicker line and a sliding float would have stopped it snapping or getting caught in the first place. And the rest of it you pretty much saying what I'm saying so I don't know were you think I'm advocating 6lb TC rods for barbel. And thanks for confirming what I already know if you catch a catfish on light gear a broken line is nearly inevitable hence if you were targeting large catfish you wouldn't use it. Anyone can wind a hooked fish in its not really skillful at all and anyone whose grown up tenching on float gear or similar will quickly learn to tread carefully to land a powerful fish on light gear as I said it's pretty simple my (at the time) 4 year old lad managed it just fine it's reading the water, finding the fish and getting them to fall for the trap were the experience comes in and the heavier your tackle the harder that is. You are talking bollox. You have no idea how that pike was lost and claiming that heavier line won't snap against a snag is bullshit. You advocate using 3lb tc rods for carp that only run to 15lb and justify it by 100lb catfish breaking 4lb hook lengths designed for small barbel. And then claim that I am agreeing with you. Total and utter bollox. Doesn't make sense but if you want to fish using gear that might, one day land your fish of a lifetime even though it is totally over gunned for what you normally catch then go ahead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Nicepix said: You are talking bollox. You have no idea how that pike was lost and claiming that heavier line won't snap against a snag is bullshit. You advocate using 3lb tc rods for carp that only run to 15lb and justify it by 100lb catfish breaking 4lb hook lengths designed for small barbel. And then claim that I am agreeing with you. Total and utter bollox. Doesn't make sense but if you want to fish using gear that might, one day land your fish of a lifetime even though it is totally over gunned for what you normally catch then go ahead. Ok. I answered the OP who said the fish average 15lb-15lb I'm guessing the the second figure was a typo and was meant to be 25lb so if that's the average stamp then God knows what the upper limit is 50lb? So a thicker line doesn't have better abrasion resistance huh I guess there must of been millions of us doing it wrong all this time who'd have thought. And finally and most importantly I made it clear my advice was my opinion unlike you who came charging in telling everyone there wrong and your right and you should target catfish with 14-20g spinning rods like it's proven science and anything else is wrong. Oh and recommending a cane rod to a yank with the best and cheapest tackle shops in the world to catch wild carp in a place as big and rugged as North America good advice. And go on then you tell me what the possible scenarios for a gut hooked pike with about 8lb line sticking out its gob are? The line snapped above the mouth so it wasn't bitten off. Theres either cracked off on the cast, got caught on the rocky drop off or he cranked his clutch up to high all of which would be solved with heavier line. Edited June 6, 2020 by JDHUNTING Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, dytkos said: No this Cheers, D. I read his posts in this voice 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfdog91 7,047 Posted June 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 Christ I've seen to have gotten y'all all rild up again 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 Were just an aggressive race eh wolfdog Stick some pics of your catches up fella be nice to see what you catch out there. Any Alligator gar in your neck of the woods?there on my bucket list Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,159 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Wolfdog91 said: Christ I've seen to have gotten y'all all rild up again .. tensions are certainly running high...the mere mention of test curve or breaking strain and it's all kicking off! Lol Edited June 6, 2020 by NEWKID 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, NEWKID said: .. tensions are certainly running high...the mere mention of test curve or breaking strain and it's all kicking off! Lol Aye best not get into the big questions like best bivvy slippers or what you can cook in your ridge monkey 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 I'll be offline for a bit. I'm just off to fell a pine tree to make a bigger rod. I'm off after gudgeon next week, but you never know.................. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,877 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Born Hunter said: This is what I sound like to normal people when I talk isn't it... Except gayer.......much, much gayer ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, Nicepix said: I'll be offline for a bit. I'm just off to fell a pine tree to make a bigger rod. I'm off after gudgeon next week, but you never know.................. Are you going to use a chainsaw or a junior hacksaw 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, WILF said: Except gayer.......much, much gayer ! With a stammer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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