Pure beeds where would you be without them ?

[shaaark 10,876]

3 minutes ago, sandymere said:

my bitches around 23 kg, 24 inches, dogs are a bit bigger

Grandsire and dam of my bitch

 

Yep, that sort of size has got to be better for coursing, than a lot of the modern coursing greyhounds. 

[sandymere 8,263]

1 hour ago, shaaark said:

Yep, that sort of size has got to be better for coursing, than a lot of the modern coursing greyhounds. 

In her prime 5 years. 

18 months 

Edited June 1, 2020 by sandymere

[Black neck 16,041]

6 hours ago, two crows said:

a hare can cope with a dog rushing up behind, but they don't like being manipulated by a clever dog.

They don't like a dog that runs at the side of them and looks at them 

Love that 1 dad

[two crows 3,342]

2 minutes ago, Black neck said:

They don't like a dog that runs at the side of them and looks at them 

Love that 1 dad

well they don't blacky cos then its just a matter of when not if, lol

[Black neck 16,041]

42 minutes ago, two crows said:

well they don't blacky cos then its just a matter of when not if, lol

Fair play I wouldn't know tbf 

[Greb147 6,809]

17 hours ago, sandymere said:

The reason I took to the Galgos was to answer some of the problems people have highlighted, I've raced and coursed greyhounds, lurchers and longdogs and in truth loved the greyhounds most but I need something injury resistant with a bit of pace and drive on small pastures but still able to stay when we get some bigger ground. My old one hardly missed a day through injury until hit by a van on the road and she took a fair amount of game. Generally they're bred to be robust in the field, have good feet, decent stamina and speed and the Spanish are hard taskmasters, if they don't do they die. 

 

 

What are they like speed wise compared to a Whippet? 

[sandymere 8,263]

1 hour ago, Greb147 said:

What are they like speed wise compared to a Whippet? 

Much as you would expect, faster top speed, run with a little non ped who was away but only until the galgo got going, completely different style .

Edited June 2, 2020 by sandymere

[chartpolski 24,133]

This thread got me thinking about pures used elsewhere.

In Australia the saluki is virtually unheard of as a working dog, either pure or crossed. I found this strange, as they have an abundance of hares, and land so big it makes the fens look like my back garden !

When I've asked lads I've hunted with down there, they just shrug their shoulders and say "we don't need them " !

I find this a bit strange, as they use breeds like Borzoi, Ibizan hound, Irish Wolkhound, Ridgebacks, etc in their breeding.

Fair enough, the breeds I mention are different to the ones here in the U.K., where the KC has ruined them, they're still worked in Oz, but I still find it a bit strange they don't use or rate the saluki ?

Cheers.

[sandymere 8,263]

I expect each make the best out of what is available, convergent evolution such as the stag hound in USA, kangaroo hound d in Oz both breed in the main for larger game, no sure the saluki would have added a lot, perhaps if they had Sloughi blood it would have been useful.

[chartpolski 24,133]

Yet whippets are popular, both pure and cross;

* Pic taken in Australia, where it's not only legal, but encouraged.

Cheers.

 

[sandymere 8,263]

Whippets were easily available to both US and Oz as they were colonised by Europeans, much as galgos and greys were taken to South America, they took the dogs they had and Saluki's, Sloughi's were not a common animal in in the areas the emigrants came from. Re the whippet although available and so common perhaps not really what would be used in producing a dog for bigger more aggressive game such as coyote, dingo and roos and the South Americans had specialist hare dogs in the form of Galgos and early English greyhounds..

Edited June 2, 2020 by sandymere

[chartpolski 24,133]

2 minutes ago, sandymere said:

Whippets were easily available to both US and Oz as they were colonised by Europeans, much as galgos and greys were taken to South America, they took the dogs they had and Saluki's, Sloughi's were not a common animal in in the areas the emigrants came from. re the whippet although available and so common perhaps not really what would be used in producing a dog for bigger more aggressive game such as coyote, dingo and roos.

I can agree with that, but surely the Ibizan, Borzoi, Ridgrback, were as rare as the saluki to the australians, yet are all used in their hunting dogs ? 

Im not after an argument, or even a debate, I just found it puzzling that the saluki isn't more popular down there when the conditions and quarry seem perfect.

Just my own opinion, we may get some of our Aussie members telling me I'm wrong ! LOL !

Cheers.

[Gilbey 1,444]

Haven't been, but have seen running dogs over there with saluki in them. Them bullarabs as well, apparently?

Edited June 2, 2020 by Gilbey

[Greb147 6,809]

A perfect excuse to emigrate, you could run Hares to your heart's content. The ground and weather would suit the Saluki and it's crosses down to a T. 

[sandymere 8,263]

31 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I can agree with that, but surely the Ibizan, Borzoi, Ridgrback, were as rare as the saluki to the australians, yet are all used in their hunting dogs ? 

Im not after an argument, or even a debate, I just found it puzzling that the saluki isn't more popular down there when the conditions and quarry seem perfect.

Just my own opinion, we may get some of our Aussie members telling me I'm wrong ! LOL !

Cheers.

Perhaps in part as the immigrants included British, Russians and Spanish which answers some of the breeds and the British where keen on Rigdebacks in South Africa. I'd guess that salukis, sloughis, tazi etc would all likely have been used if available and perhaps the odd one was in the original mixing of breeds. Plus to and to an outback fella from before the turn of the century a wolfhound may have been a variety of types such as in Irish wolfhound or Borzoi or a number of different types, so word of mouth ancestries were likey open to interpretation lol.

ps don't think anyone is arguing ,more a matter of just musing on possibilities.

Edited June 2, 2020 by sandymere