Pure beeds where would you be without them ?

[Black neck 15,875]

36 minutes ago, Kalibrgun said:

Yeah but them lads with collie crosses and beddy crosses catch hares so must be hare dogs I know a couple spots where I've took lads that thought they had good dogs and get their arsed dragged about for a few min then hare drops a gear and pulls away. There the spots I run to see how second season dog us shaping up if it kills em there they'll kill anywhere the best of hares. 

Feck that then 

[mC HULL 12,275]

2 hours ago, Kalibrgun said:

Yeah but them lads with collie crosses and beddy crosses catch hares so must be hare dogs I know a couple spots where I've took lads that thought they had good dogs and get their arsed dragged about for a few min then hare drops a gear and pulls away. There the spots I run to see how second season dog us shaping up if it kills em there they'll kill anywhere the best of hares. 

i have spots like that dog needs to be fit as can be and if it ain’t got 6 mins in the tank it will be left in a heap 

[Black neck 15,875]

29 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

i have spots like that dog needs to be fit as can be and if it ain’t got 6 mins in the tank it will be left in a heap 

The hares at Kalibrgun spots are better than yours he reckons 

[mC HULL 12,275]

5 minutes ago, Black neck said:

The hares at Kalibrgun spots are better than yours he reckons 

i recon he would be in for a shock mate  

[Black neck 15,875]

17 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

i recon he would be in for a shock mate  

He said the same about you tbh ,recon he were after a best o 5er if u ask me like  

[mC HULL 12,275]

Just now, Black neck said:

He said the same about you tbh ,recon he were after a best o 5er if u ask me like  

 

[TOMO 26,067]

20 hours ago, mC HULL said:

nothing better than a saluki lurcher for catching hares you wouldn’t catch as many snaring i know that  

what other things ? hare was sought after in the 60s to late 80s 

a saluki was bred for sport to course come on it was bred for thousands a years to put meat on the table not to get dragged about by a hare 

whilst i love a good course...and watching proper coursing types catch hares....they could never out perform a well places  snare mate...

 

[mC HULL 12,275]

Just now, TOMO said:

whilst i love a good course...and watching proper coursing types catch hares....they could never out perform a well places  snare mate...

 

we’re do you put a snare on openish land mate 

[TOMO 26,067]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

we’re do you put a snare on openish land mate 

on its run mate...even on the fens there is still places you could put a snare...or of course many snares...on a lot of that land with dykes etc....there will be little crossings over the dykes just wide enough for a tractor....you will find runs on most of them....also going through set aside....and cover crop left for game birds...

there are chaps out there that are extremely proficient with the old wires....i dont fall in to that category but i can get by with them...   

[mC HULL 12,275]

Just now, TOMO said:

on its run mate...even on the fens there is still places you could put a snare...or of course many snares...on a lot of that land with dykes etc....there will be little crossings over the dykes just wide enough for a tractor....you will find runs on most of them....also going through set aside....and cover crop left for game birds...

there are chaps out there that are extremely proficient with the old wires....i dont fall in to that category but i can get by with them...   

you do see plenty a runs threw open land some be fox but most are most likely hares you see them faint tracks something i haven’t really done a lot off ante 

[Black neck 15,875]

13 minutes ago, TOMO said:

whilst i love a good course...and watching proper coursing types catch hares....they could never out perform a well places  snare mate...

 

Or 10 

[fireman 10,869]

1 hour ago, mC HULL said:

i have spots like that dog needs to be fit as can be and if it ain’t got 6 mins in the tank it will be left in a heap 

And that's why a dog is no good for filling a pot with hares for a hunter/gatherer type fella and other game is far easier to catch, that is why saluki's and all the other coursing dogs were bred for sport and not as pot fillers...A hare is to much of a animal to aim at with a dog just for a smallish dinner,has been and always will be and hence why coursing dogs were and are these days bred for sport.. The saluki x maybe the best there is but that's not anything to do with the history of coursing as such and killing hares is a different sort of coursing..

[fireman 10,869]

5 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

you do see plenty a runs threw open land some be fox but most are most likely hares you see them faint tracks something i haven’t really done a lot off ante 

I've caught hares with a 10 ft stop net and a jack russell more than once in the past,a dog that can't catch a hare will run it out the filed in the same place many times and on mooches in the past this has happened and iv'e gone back and netted it after the russell has chased it as a hare is a creature that uses the same runs over and over again..

[mC HULL 12,275]

1 minute ago, fireman said:

And that's why a dog is no good for filling a pot with hares for a hunter/gatherer type fella and other game is far easier to catch, that is why saluki's and all the other coursing dogs were bred for sport and not as pot fillers...A hare is to much of a animal to aim at with a dog just for a smallish dinner,has been and always will be and hence why coursing dogs were and are these days bred for sport.. The saluki x maybe the best there is but that's not anything to do with the history of coursing as such and killing hares is a different sort of coursing..

a good dog will catch a hare  90 percent a the time you go out mate 

me old lady and 4 sisters are hare every week in the 60s 70s 80s smallholding pigs turkeys goats on you didn’t need to buy meat that and good dogs seen you right mate 

[Black neck 15,875]

2 minutes ago, fireman said:

And that's why a dog is no good for filling a pot with hares for a hunter/gatherer type fella and other game is far easier to catch, that is why saluki's and all the other coursing dogs were bred for sport and not as pot fillers...A hare is to much of a animal to aim at with a dog just for a smallish dinner,has been and always will be and hence why coursing dogs were and are these days bred for sport.. The saluki x maybe the best there is but that's not anything to do with the history of coursing as such and killing hares is a different sort of coursing..

A smallish dinner ffs hull can eat a roe in 1 sitting followed be a whole vienetta just for elevenses