Pure beeds where would you be without them ?

[MickC 1,825]

  On 01/06/2020 at 11:40, juckler123 said:

Very typey pal

I ran with half crossed deerhounds for a good few seasons the best imho was the ones thrown to greyhound in build but had everything deerhound added those ones were perfect hounds

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That is how my bitch pup here is,although a bit taller than I wanted.I will try and get a recent pic of her.

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  On 31/05/2020 at 20:14, Shadow100 said:

I like the idea of lurcher back to a good greyhound, a lot of people disregard it & say they’re injury prone but how many have actually witnessed it first hand, most will just have seen it written on here or heard a mate say it then repeat it as if it’s fact.

A lot of lurchers I’ve seen in the past few years lack urgency, happy just to cruise up to something as if they've got all day and before you know it, it’s made a wood. An outcross to a greyhound would fix that problem, it might have its downsides but so does every breed so it’s definitely worth a go in my book.

After all without the greyhound blood what would we have? Empty freezers.

 

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The last bit yes

I honestly regard greyhound blood a difficult issue I have to say if breeding a mongrel line then yes but is there need for greyhound today with what we have already

Bad feet lack of stamina no field sense even when brought up for field and not track from what I've seen personally.

I will say this though only two pure bred sighthounds I have ever witnessed survive in the wild for a good few months were both pure greyhound

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  On 31/05/2020 at 20:26, maxhardcore said:

As has been said without the pure's we wouldn't have Lurchers .

And as has been said every now and then you got to add a bit of pure Be it Greyhound ' Saluki ' Working Collie' Bedlington ' Deerhound depending on what suits you .

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Spot on Max what suits you that's a great way of putting it

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Queenie was a saluki x bull whippet Jucks What saluki mate you no 

[Shadow100 1,066]

  On 01/06/2020 at 12:08, juckler123 said:

The last bit yes

I honestly regard greyhound blood a difficult issue I have to say if breeding a mongrel line then yes but is there need for greyhound today with what we have already

Bad feet lack of stamina no field sense even when brought up for field and not track from what I've seen personally.

I will say this though only two pure bred sighthounds I have ever witnessed survive in the wild for a good few months were both pure greyhound

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I think I’ve just got a soft spot for them because I grew up round a few if I’m honest, but I do like fast dogs, I won’t keep something that’s not got plenty speed they don’t suit me.

Got to say though mate the dogs I’ve seen with the worst feet have been generation bred coursing hybrids, saw a couple out of Romeo that would smash their feet up running on sand.

By looking at your pictures you’ve been in to dogs a long time. Would you say you’ve noticed as times gone on, lurchers in general have got less durable? When I first started out I don’t remember dogs having half as many injuries as a lot of them do now.

My first dog virtually never needed time off apart from the off barbed wire rip, but in the past few years I’ve seen & owned dogs that need constant maintenance, and basically wrapped in cotton wool to get them through a season. 

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And mollys dam was queenie what was her sire anyone no 

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A few years ago there was a topic on here Thomasb a think he imported a smooth pure from ghanem kennel I thought it was a pal a yours mate 

[shaaark 10,942]

  On 01/06/2020 at 11:58, juckler123 said:

Becky 

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Cracker, looks a strong bitch

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  On 01/06/2020 at 11:28, MickC said:

There has been some tidy Deerhounds imported the last few years from France and Germany that I know of and are from working stock and they themselves are worked. There is a lot of disparity when it comes to Deerhounds and some are big heavy useless looking things but others look like they could put a shift in. Here is a few pics of the pups out 1/2 cross litter I bred and are now 8month old. 

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They've got the look of the deer greys I knew in the 90's, Good to see a few still about, hope something good comes of them mate, all the best

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The reason I took to the Galgos was to answer some of the problems people have highlighted, I've raced and coursed greyhounds, lurchers and longdogs and in truth loved the greyhounds most but I need something injury resistant with a bit of pace and drive on small pastures but still able to stay when we get some bigger ground. My old one hardly missed a day through injury until hit by a van on the road and she took a fair amount of game. Generally they're bred to be robust in the field, have good feet, decent stamina and speed and the Spanish are hard taskmasters, if they don't do they die. 

 

 

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  On 01/06/2020 at 13:26, sandymere said:

The reason I took to the Galgos was to answer some of the problems people have highlighted, I've raced and coursed greyhounds, lurchers and longdogs and in truth loved the greyhounds most but I need something injury resistant with a bit of pace and drive on small pastures but still able to stay when we get some bigger ground. My old one hardly missed a day through injury until hit by a van on the road and she took a fair amount of game. Generally they're bred to be robust in the field, have good feet, decent stamina and speed and the Spanish are hard taskmasters, if they don't do they die. 

 

 

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I've noticed most of these galgos are pretty lightly framed, more similar to the early coursing greyhounds.

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  On 01/06/2020 at 13:49, shaaark said:

I've noticed most of these galgos are pretty lightly framed, more similar to the early coursing greyhounds.

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Yes smaller and lighter musculature but decent bone, one of the reasons they are less injury prone plus not as fast as a grey but still has a good turn of pace and have a running brain.

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  On 01/06/2020 at 14:05, sandymere said:

Yes smaller and lighter musculature but decent bone, one of the reasons they are less injury prone plus not as fast as a grey but still has a good turn of pace and have a running brain.

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Haven't got the figures etc in front of me, but, coomassie 44lb? Fullerton 60lb? Modern dogs double the size of coomassie, and plenty of bitches in the 70+lb mark, madness lol

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  On 01/06/2020 at 14:09, shaaark said:

Haven't got the figures etc in front of me, but, coomassie 44lb? Fullerton 60lb? Modern dogs double the size of coomassie, and plenty of bitches in the 70+lb mark, madness lol

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my bitches around 23 kg, 24 inches, dogs are a bit bigger

Grandsire and dam of my bitch

 

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  On 01/06/2020 at 14:09, shaaark said:

Haven't got the figures etc in front of me, but, coomassie 44lb? Fullerton 60lb? Modern dogs double the size of coomassie, and plenty of bitches in the 70+lb mark, madness lol

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Cashels Evening put up a great show at the last Waterloo Cup.

Greyhound Data has her weight as 50lb, but the owner told me she ran in the Cup at 45lb, as she lost weight due to travelling from America to France and then to England..A very good little 'un !

Cheers.