Lachhiman Gurung ( gurkha soldier )

[WILF 46,978]

1 minute ago, Greb147 said:

Basically adaptations to different environments. 

So based on that, Africans and Asians would be different sub species ? 
 

Which, given the logical conclusion to the general jist of this conversation would mean the extinction of one or more sub species if everyone bred with a different sub species to their own yes ? 

[Born Hunter 17,775]

16 hours ago, WILF said:

We value all sorts of animals because they are good in their own way and each makes up part of the whole......nobody would talk about animals the way they do human beings.

Why not! It's fun! 

16 hours ago, WILF said:

When I see phrases like “we are all human beings” it’s (imho) exactly like saying “it’s just a bird”........so what? The only species of bird we want to look at is chickens?

No birds of paradise or falcons or hummingbirds......just chickens ? 
 

That mate is unthinkable and yet we think it about people......to me, that’s nonsense !

Now, to me, we're getting to the crux of conservation, it's just about what people want to keep, not usually much to do with 'nature'. People want to save the lions and bears and elephants because they're charismatic, yet no one gives a f**k about the screw worm that the US government are trying to wipe out! (Interesting read!)

Similarly you want to maintain the racial diversity of the human species. For what it's worth, I personally don't disagree with that ideal, I want white kids and to live in a white neighbourhood. FYI they have a name for that urge/preference, assortative mating and koinophilia (other instances of science being racist LOL). But at the same time I value freedom and I believe that racial admixture is totally 'natural' and given the progression of technology ultimately inevitable.

Edited May 27, 2020 by Born Hunter

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

17 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

But they are still healthy pigs that can go on to have other little pigs like nature intended. 

The Nazis didn't win the war pal so each and every human has the right to decide who they reproduce with. 

That doesn't matter whether you are I agree with it it's just the way it is. 

It's not like nature intended though, it's like Wilf intended and I'm sure if pigs could talk they'd tell you there not happy with the survival of there species in wilfs hands. Just like mulitculturism isn't a natural process, it's engineered.

I guess your going to say if we're animals then that's nature but that's going down another rabbit hole really cos your then getting into the realms of everything is fate at which point nothing anyone does matters. 

Getting to deep for myself here I'm going to take the dogs out while the sun's cooled off

[WILF 46,978]

8 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

I'm sure Philipp Bouhler felt exactly the same  up to the point he swallowed a cyanide capsule to escape execution. 

Whether it's moral or right is highly subjective. 

I don’t know who that is and I don’t know what he was condemned to death for ?

The morality comes from if you think your own particular race matters or not......there’s no right or wrong answer, everyone decides for themselves.

What you can’t do is force everyone to think it’s right.

[mushroom 12,997]

14 minutes ago, WILF said:

What defines sub groups within a species?.....is it differences ?

I genuinely don’t know the proper answer by the way before you think I’m trying to be a smart arse ! Lol 

Lol never took you for a smart arse mate

Chimps and bonobos is a great example. Have a Google. The differences 0.3%DNA change can create, is pretty wild.

We do it all the time with stock. Hence old pig breeds are fatty and recent creations are lean.

Dingos are another great example.

[WILF 46,978]

1 minute ago, mushroom said:

Lol never took you for a smart arse mate

Chimps and bonobos is a great example. Have a Google. The differences 0.3%DNA change can create, is pretty wild.

We do it all the time with stock. Hence old pig breeds are fatty and recent creations are lean.

Dingos are another great example.

I hear you mate but what all those things ARE NOT is the same.........as far as I can see ?

[Astanley 11,568]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

That’s not evolution mate, that’s mongrelisation......it’s cross breeding plain and simple.

I have two pigs out in the field now that are a cross between Tamworth and Gloucester Old Spot.

The combination of the traits of each produces what I have and I will breed them to each other in the hope of fixing.

What they ARE NOT is a Tamworth or a Gloucester Old Spot any more.....I have eradicated each to produce what I have.

As it happens both rare breeds that no longer exist on my farm because of cross breeding. 
 

YOU GENOCIDAL MANIAC !

[Greb147 6,809]

14 minutes ago, WILF said:

So based on that, Africans and Asians would be different sub species ? 
 

Which, given the logical conclusion to the general jist of this conversation would mean the extinction of one or more sub species if everyone bred with a different sub species to their own yes ? 

Scientists haven't since I last knew agreed on whether we should be labelled the same species as Neanderthals, we did mate with them and produce fertile offspring. 

Think of us as more like dogs, they all look very different but they are all the same species.

[WILF 46,978]

20 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

I'm sure Philipp Bouhler felt exactly the same  up to the point he swallowed a cyanide capsule to escape execution. 

Whether it's moral or right is highly subjective. 

I have just looked that bloke up.......unbelievable !

You have to be under 40?.......because only someone educated and brainwashed in the last 30 years could associate wanting your race and heritage to survive with wanting to commit mass genocide !

And there was me thinking you may actually have a brain in your canister !........

I did notice you throwing the odd “Nazi” reference in there but i assumes it was a coincidence but now I see it’s not.........now given the inference that I’m somehow a “nazi” think about who has called who names on this thread ?........that’s the level debate has got to in this modern day and age, if you scream “nazi” & “racist” long and loud enough you win !.......wether you are right or not ! Lol 

[mushroom 12,997]

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

I hear you mate but what all those things ARE NOT is the same.........as far as I can see ?

That's my point mate, we are ALL on the evolution path... we just can't see it for the bloody wood. If I could take you 10000 years into the future from now, you and me would be the full on outsiders.

Imagine if the white races had completely wiped out native populations instead of colonised. In 10000 years we would be seeing a different result. Would it be best for the species? Who knows. That is evolution.

[WILF 46,978]

All I know is, I like me, me and people like me have been pretty good all things considered.

I like my history, I like what we have achieved and I think we have as much right in the world as anyone else and more right in our own part of it.

I don’t want to see “me” die out faster than whatever grand plans intend and certainly not at the hand of some politician or university graduate because they think it’s cool to kill me off.

A bit basic but that’s about the strength of it.

[Greb147 6,809]

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

I have just looked that bloke up.......unbelievable !

You have to be under 40?.......because only someone educated and brainwashed in the last 30 years could associate wanting your race and heritage to survive with wanting to commit mass genocide !

And there was me thinking you may actually have a brain in your canister !........

I did notice you throwing the odd “Nazi” reference in there but i assumes it was a coincidence but now I see it’s not.........now given the inference that I’m somehow a “nazi” think about who has called who names on this thread ?........that’s the level debate has got to in this modern day and age, if you scream “nazi” & “racist” long and loud enough you win !.......wether you are right or not ! Lol 

Genocide wasn't their first plan of action, just saying lol. 

So what do you suggest? Start off with expulsion? 

 

[WILF 46,978]

1 minute ago, Greb147 said:

Genocide wasn't their first plan of action, just saying lol. 

So what do you suggest? Start off with expulsion? 

 

Stop promoting and normalising it would be a start.......

[Greb147 6,809]

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

Stop promoting and normalising it would be a start.......

Look I hate what this place has become just as much as you but what can we do about it? 

You can't blame the migrants for coming here, blame the government for allowing them to do so. 

They are here to stay so it is better to try and accept and tolerate than be at constant war with yourself over it. 

I don't even think you mean half of what you say, I bet  coming from London you've had plenty of black pals or people you are friendly with. 

[riohog 5,708]

1 hour ago, gnasher16 said:

In the 80,s us thicko working class lads were telling " educated intelligent " people that white people would be a minority in London within 50 years....." dont be ridiculous stop being so melodramatic " they told us........we said " it wont be long before cities all across England have Muslim mayors " sit down and shut up with your exaggerated nonsense " we got told.

Thicko working class blokes like us will tell them the same old shit until the social construct known as the white race is abolished and destroyed........at that point these educated intelligent people might turn round and say " oh maybe we should have listened ".....but i doubt it.

old enoch knew the score they shipped him out smartish .....