Lachhiman Gurung ( gurkha soldier )

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

7 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

Is that the definition of endangered?

Last I looked native European populations was stable due to ageing with reproductive rates indeed below 1:1. The definition of an endangered species is one that is at serious risk of extinction. I don't want to get into semantic arguments of race and species but if our population is at an all time high then unless we're all sterile I don't think we're quite endangered yet!

Frankly I think it's brilliant that reproductive rates drop in civilised societies. Just a shame at the same time we developed a soft and self destructive attitude to the 3rd world.

I'm no scientist but if reproductive rates are less the 1:1 it's not possible for our population to be at an all time high as there were more white people alive yesterday than today and  more last year than this year, and there'll be less next week than this week.

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[Born Hunter 17,775]

3 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Because we would never have interacted with them in the first place if it wasn't for colonialism. 

Of course we are not obliged to let them live here but I think it's an acceptable trade-off for their services. 

 

With ya! 

[WILF 46,978]

To put it in layman’s terms, White Europe don’t need another single Asian or African or red indian or any other person that isn’t white European......it’s as simple as that.

 

[Born Hunter 17,775]

3 minutes ago, JDHUNTING said:

I'm no scientist but if reproductive rates are less the 1:1 it's not possible for our population to be at an all time high as there were more white people alive yesterday than today and  more last year than this year, and there'll be less next week than this week.

It's not the people at the end of their lives doing the breeding though. So I don;t believe reproductive rates really consider deaths so much of how many of the breeding stock are being replaced. Tbh it's not something I look closely at. Wilf will likely know more.

[Born Hunter 17,775]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

To put it in layman’s terms, White Europe don’t need another single Asian or African or red indian or any other person that isn’t white European......it’s as simple as that.

 

And just to point out mate, I think it's totally fine to believe that. I sort of disagree with you but I'm not going to get all hysterical about it.

[Greb147 6,809]

14 minutes ago, JDHUNTING said:

What benefit did 99% of the population get from colonialism then? The height of the British empire was 1900-1920 my great great grandfather lived in that period, he worked on the pit head from 5-11 years old underground from 12-18 and got shot on some forgotten hill in turkey at 19 protecting the "empire" (along with a load of Gurkhas funnily enough). All the "empire" did was line the pockets of the already rich and all the normal people have suffered for it ever since.

I agree it benefited the rich more than the working class but a wealthy nation will always be better for the people than a poorer one. You would have to go in to massive detail to try and work out the benefits and the negatives. 

[WILF 46,978]

Just now, Born Hunter said:

It's not the people at the end of their lives doing the breeding though. So I don;t believe reproductive rates really consider deaths so much of how many of the breeding stock are being replaced. Tbh it's not something I look closely at. Wilf will likely know more.

Off the top of my head the numbers are something like this:

To maintain your species you need to be breeding at a number of 2.1 (whatever that means)

We are at 1.6 which is pretty much at the “beyond repair” level......

If it was some rare newt they would chuck a few hundred grand at a breeding programme somewhere but because it’s nasty old whitey we can go f**k ourselves.

Thats the fully abridged version ! Lol 

[Greb147 6,809]

6 minutes ago, WILF said:

Off the top of my head the numbers are something like this:

To maintain your species you need to be breeding at a number of 2.1 (whatever that means)

We are at 1.6 which is pretty much at the “beyond repair” level......

If it was some rare newt they would chuck a few hundred grand at a breeding programme somewhere but because it’s nasty old whitey we can go f**k ourselves.

Thats the fully abridged version ! Lol 

We are humans not thoroughbred horses, we have a choice on who we breed with. 

Whatever the outcome will be it is completely natural. 

We are a species that mated with the Neanderthal ffs. 

You need to accept and embrace evolution.

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[Born Hunter 17,775]

4 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

We are humans not thoroughbred horses, we have a choice on who we breed with. 

We are! You wait until you get your test results then we'll decide if you are too! 

[Greb147 6,809]

3 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

We are! You wait until you get your test results then we'll decide if you are too! 

I'm superior, must be hybrid vigour.

[Born Hunter 17,775]

11 minutes ago, WILF said:

We are at 1.6 which is pretty much at the “beyond repair” level......

I bet that threshold has been taken from some part of conservation sciences?

And I bet it's not relevant here because the cause of our reproductivity dropping is not the same as it would be in a similar wild animal population case.

As a developed society we have pretty much chosen to reduce our breeding. Our population size is historically at a peak and our fertility is still ample. There's nothing irreversible about our current situation as far as I can see.

From where I'm standing the threat to native Europeans isn't our population shrinking to extinction it's every other population exploding!

[WILF 46,978]

22 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

We are humans not thoroughbred horses, we have a choice on who we breed with. 

Whatever the outcome will be it is completely natural. 

We are a species that mated with the Neanderthal ffs. 

You need to accept and embrace evolution.

Ice is just frozen water so all things being equal it don’t matter a f**k if the ice caps totally melt ? Holy f**k like !

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

22 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

We are humans not thoroughbred horses, we have a choice on who we breed with. 

Whatever the outcome will be it is completely natural. 

We are a species that mated with the Neanderthal ffs. 

You need to accept and embrace evolution.

Only Europeans have any neanderthal DNA, incidentally it is thought Neanderthals were more intelligent than modern humans but accepted them coming into their lands from Africa, the modern humans were thought to be more aggressive and bred more readily than the Neanderthals though so it led to the extinction of them. Sound familiar? What's the saying again " those who forget the past past are doomed to repeat it" never a truer word spoken.

[Born Hunter 17,775]

Not just Europeans mate, Asians too.

Incidentally I thought it was f***ing hilarious when the study came out showing how modern racial groups broadly fit in with historic hybridisation between archaic humans.

Eurasians are Sapien Neanderthal hybrids and sub-saharan Africans are 'pure' Sapien. Denisovans feature somewhere in Asia too. I think native Australians might have some sort of unique admixture as well but I can't remember.

Anyway, I love it when science is a little bit racist. Everyone gets mental!

[WILF 46,978]

19 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

I bet that threshold has been taken from some part of conservation sciences?

And I bet it's not relevant here because the cause of our reproductivity dropping is not the same as it would be in a similar wild animal population case.

As a developed society we have pretty much chosen to reduce our breeding. Our population size is historically at a peak and our fertility is still ample. There's nothing irreversible about our current situation as far as I can see.

From where I'm standing the threat to native Europeans isn't our population shrinking to extinction it's every other population exploding!

Obviously I checked to make sure I wasn’t just fuelling my own bias and as far as I can remember it’s studies based solely on human population mate......nothing stolen from Orangutans or anything like that