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im a very independent man my friend, but a bit of help from folk occasionally or a pat on the back works wonders with the hardest of folks, ive said many moons ago, I would empty my bank balance just to share a cup of tea with the devil, lonelinees is a wicked evil thing, and its getting to me, but so are a million others, lonely and thinking awful things,   but that offer, your on my friend, summat to look forward to, its the kind of world I dream of, couldn't give a monkies about money, even the roof over my head, fek that its just a place to get my head down,  ive manned the f**k up as someone told me, but what now

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You Kieth are far from a coward and i'll have a good bet with you many on here also think your a very brave man like i do and bravery don't just mean your brave enough to take some pills or drop from

Keith at some point you are going to see your situation for what it is.....at the moment you cant see any light at the end of the tunnel and i guess thats just how mourning someone you love works.....

Bit of a mad one but i have a 92 year old neighbour who ain't so stable on his feet and has had a few falls this year,me and my misses have been woken up in the middle of the night by his shouting or

Its similar to my ole man,78yr old,we had a family tragedy which nearly broke my ole man,and us kids too.he has a partner now,but shes got bad dementia, its tearing him apart looking after her,he moans,and gets pissed right off.i live next door,do can keep any eye out,hes lucky in that we have got private property,with gated entrence so he can walk about the ground,got a few things keep him busy,but old age is a lonely place.the way he talks tho hes the only person not allowed out.??

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  On 25/05/2020 at 08:58, iworkwhippets said:

few weeks ago one afternoon my phone rang, it was the police, don't worry he says you haven't done anything wrong, apparantley ive been placed on the suicidal risk by McMillan, asked how I was and told em ,   we will ring you next week sir, never heard from them again , yes im still here cos ive no guts a coward

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Keith you're no coward and you're not ready to die mate. Its the coward that tops himself and deep down you know that you love nature we can all tell that, get out on your perm have a walk out mate does wonders for soul. Wish I was close mate but if you need to talk PM me I will give you my phone number and we can chat.

Cheers Arry

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  On 24/05/2020 at 21:25, fireman said:

Bit of a mad one but i have a 92 year old neighbour who ain't so stable on his feet and has had a few falls this year,me and my misses have been woken up in the middle of the night by his shouting or screaming in pain and we've had to go round and help him.He has 3 sons who come round one a day and he has a carer who comes in in the morning and evening to help wash and dress him and get him ready for bed  and we go round and chat through the window and i cut his grass etc so he's not on hos own to much.Well today we heard him screaming and i ran round to find him wedged in his bath upstairs,the poor old fella was soaked and it took a while for me and my misses to get him dried and dressed as he can't stand for long.I phoned one of his sons and he came and took over as such but the old boy turned and told me with tears in his eyes he'd gone upstairs to drown himself as he can't take his life no more.It must have taken all he had just to climb those stairs and he must of ran a bit of water then collapsed into the bath.I told his son what he'd said and he said he'd get him some extra help but the old boy has had enough of being like he is which to be honest is a helpless just surviving thing.I'll be looking in his window now every morning before i go to work as i'd rather find him than my misses or young lad and gutted such a cracking fella's life has to end like his is...

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Went through this with Betty a good 96 year old old dear across the road. Used to take a meal across two days a week and two spare meals do her shopping. Found her on the floor a few times Broken hip one day fractured wrist another then a stroke. Always resetting the TV and phone that she had messed up. But she was a good old girl tell me about the war land army etc, about a trip ferreting with a farm hand. Things were getting bad she was never the same after the stroke. Just before lock down and she fell again and had to call an ambulance. Big relief for me they got her in a home for rest bite and she loved it she has put on weight far more positive. I had a key to her house Fireman and always thought I would be the one that find her dead and was dreading that. 

Cheers Arry

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  On 24/05/2020 at 21:39, sid g said:

some old boy in our village left a note for his kids said he felt a burden to everyone and had, had enough shot himself , i`d hate to have any body having to dress me n wipe my arse .. 

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ive not come across anyone yet that I don't feel a burden to not around heres anyway, theres a young lady across from me, made it quite clear in the beginning she wanted my house, cos she has a flat, offered me this that n tuther for me to exchange, but I made it quite clear I wanted away from this area, and yet she still persists on bringing meals over, keeping her finger in hoping, sat night knock comes at door, 2 slices of pizza and cold chip, their leftovers, my front garden once my pride n joy, now a jungle,neighbours are out this very moment mowing their lawns, I don't feel a burden to no one, cos no one does out for me, cant believe how civil you lot have been to me, im not the only one sitting at home on their own, theres loads of us out there, but that offer from fireman, you've all heard the saying, its restored my faith in human nature, well im feeling that, I wanna go out with a smile on my face, not a miserable old saddo one min you canhave all you want in life, money, a nice house, a loving partner, next min its all gone, I mean look at the world we live ,,,,    exist in now,

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  On 25/05/2020 at 08:58, iworkwhippets said:

few weeks ago one afternoon my phone rang, it was the police, don't worry he says you haven't done anything wrong, apparantley ive been placed on the suicidal risk by McMillan, asked how I was and told em ,   we will ring you next week sir, never heard from them again , yes im still here cos ive no guts a coward

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Takes a braver man to continue, rather than take an easy route mate ;)

Keith many of us on here, are only a phone call away ?

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  On 25/05/2020 at 12:57, mushroom said:

Takes a braver man to continue, rather than take an easy route mate ;)

Keith many of us on here, are only a phone call away ?

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Thanks, and that's one of the reasons im here cos you lot are there, if ever the day fireman knocks at my door, ive a bag already packed and money in my pocket, it wont cost him nowt, that's the least I can do, ive just panicked cos I couldn't log on to this forum,  that's sad eh

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  On 25/05/2020 at 13:25, iworkwhippets said:

Thanks, and that's one of the reasons im here cos you lot are there, if ever the day fireman knocks at my door, ive a bag already packed and money in my pocket, it wont cost him nowt, that's the least I can do, ive just panicked cos I couldn't log on to this forum,  that's sad eh

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Mate, it's not sad! I think the one thing to take from this thread is DO NOT be alone or isolate yourself! Whether online or off. A few lads have given you their numbers, give them a bell if you can't get on and want a chat. If you want a holiday, give me a shout ;) I'll get you out around BCN and surrounding areas on the lash. The second you land, beach bars, sun and lots of scenery to cleanse the soul (or make it mucky) ?

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  On 25/05/2020 at 09:34, fireman said:

I know you didn't mate and as it goes i am looking forward to meeting up with you as i like your sense of humour and i recon you have one or two good old stories to tell to,just hang in there until this virus has had it's day and i'll be up to see you and that is a promise Kieth...:victory:

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Right ok mate in the beginning I had many offers of help, thing is, as funny as it may seem, I just wanted to grieve get my head together, I would have been no use to anyone, but now, as with everyone whos lost, time is a great healer, don't get me wrong, I still refuse to go upstairs to bed, and still waken up in the middle of the night in a panic,  having said that, its no use me boring the pants of you good folk and not taking you up on your offers, so if the offer is still there now next week or whenever im waiting now, on one condition, expenses are on me, one other thing my friend, im no invalid I don't need any care or looking after, I wouldn't do that to anyone, im really looking forward to it, thank you

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  On 25/05/2020 at 13:45, mushroom said:

Mate, it's not sad! I think the one thing to take from this thread is DO NOT be alone or isolate yourself! Whether online or off. A few lads have given you their numbers, give them a bell if you can't get on and want a chat. If you want a holiday, give me a shout ;) I'll get you out around BCN and surrounding areas on the lash. The second you land, beach bars, sun and lots of scenery to cleanse the soul (or make it mucky) ?

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another kind offer and from the heart I thank you mate, your offer sounds out this world compare to what im putting up with at the mo,and lots of folk would be on the next plane over, but the days of making it mucky are over for me, out of respect, I like to look folks in the eye when im talking to em, but this is the best I can do,  so once again,,, thank you

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  On 25/05/2020 at 14:24, iworkwhippets said:

another kind offer and from the heart I thank you mate, your offer sounds out this world compare to what im putting up with at the mo,and lots of folk would be on the next plane over, but the days of making it mucky are over for me, out of respect, I like to look folks in the eye when im talking to em, but this is the best I can do,  so once again,,, thank you

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Talking to them? :blink: .... I'm on about ladies in skimpy bikinis, led on the beach, who want you to have a butchers, while sipping the cool drink of your choice, on a beach terrace 25yards away?‍♂️ We can take it in turns to look, so it's not too obvious ?

If you ever want to bob over, let me know and we'll sort it ;)

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had some very kind offers from several of you, Newkid, gnasher, mushroom, im more than ready now, its summer as well, thank you, but if Fireman comes good, im off for the weekend,  if he will have me, what a turn around in my life, never thought id smile again neh mind be happy offers of phone calls also     Arry my son, just bung us one of those dishes over matey theres a good lad

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  On 25/05/2020 at 17:06, iworkwhippets said:

had some very kind offers from several of you, Newkid, gnasher, mushroom, im more than ready now, its summer as well, thank you, but if Fireman comes good, im off for the weekend,  if he will have me, what a turn around in my life, never thought id smile again neh mind be happy offers of phone calls also     Arry my son, just bung us one of those dishes over matey theres a good lad

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Happy days Keith, keep her lit, an goodman fireman an the rest of the lads. 

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  On 25/05/2020 at 14:32, mushroom said:

Talking to them? :blink: .... I'm on about ladies in skimpy bikinis, led on the beach, who want you to have a butchers, while sipping the cool drink of your choice, on a beach terrace 25yards away?‍♂️ We can take it in turns to look, so it's not too obvious ?

If you ever want to bob over, let me know and we'll sort it ;)

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I don't mind carrying your bags Keith and I will even take over mushs watch ? 

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Keith at some point you are going to see your situation for what it is.....at the moment you cant see any light at the end of the tunnel and i guess thats just how mourning someone you love works.....we are all reading you write this stuff and id imagine most chaps are thinking like i am,that you are seeing every positive as a negative.....you see a man who wont top himself as a coward when everyone else see,s courage and strength......you see yourself a miserable lonely old man when everyone else sees a humorous likeable ol boy.....im nobody to judge an older gent who has lived more of life than myself but having seen a few of the darker sides of human beings over the years i can sense a person showing their power as a man,showing their resolve and desire to keep going,a trait all men particularly working/sporting dog men admire......but alas,you are mourning so you cannot see that quality.....my apologies if this is too straight and direct but sometimes your writings are hard to ignore.....stick in their chief im sure the light isnt too far away. 

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