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[WILF 47,060]

25 minutes ago, MH1 said:

Lucky you if you’ve managed to avoid the story of Dominic Cummings, advisor to the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, who is being pilloried by the press for daring to drive to his parents house during Britain’s antediluvian, “lockdown” measures.

In short, Cummings drove some way across the country while the public was being told to effectively shelter in place for weeks. He says he was just visiting his parents hoping to get some childcare out of them as he and his partner were both incapacitated with symptoms of the coronavirus. The media vehemently disagrees.

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50 days ago I PREDICTED w/ absence of Boris Johnson and Dominic Cummings, UK bureaucrats would try and delay Brexit again.

Indeed while they were away, that's what Mark Sedwill (chief bureaucrat in Britain) did.

The whole furore now is bcoz Cummings STOPPED it when he returned.

 

 

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But in the grand scheme of things the story is small. So why are hordes of reporters camped outside Cummings’s house, non-socially distanced, demanding he resign?

Brexit, of course.

The Telegraph‘s Jeremy Warner gave us an insighton May 12th, well before the hysteria about a man driving a car to his parents house kicked in. I’ve added emphasis for your convenience:

Engulfed by the pandemic, there are rather bigger fish for everyone to fry than Britain’s future relationship with the EU. Under prior instructions from their political masters, negotiators on both sides of the fence exist in a bubble all of their own, seemingly oblivious to the storm raging outside – yesterday’s battles being fought against the backdrop of a world in transformation.

Past obsessions have been rendered virtually irrelevant by the Covid-19 threat, yet they persist unperturbed amid the confusion of Zoom calls; it is the curse of David Frost and Michel Barnier, the British and EU chief negotiators respectively, to carry on regardless.

A deal to extend the transition in light of the crisis had been all but agreed at official level. The EU was to have spared the UK’s blushes by proposing it, rather than the other way around. This would have allowed the UK government to present the concession as a favour to the EU, rather than a climbdown.

But then Dominic Cummings, the Prime Minister’s chief adviser, returned and the plan, concocted by underlings while he and Boris Johnson were laid out on their sick beds, was scuppered.

You see, while Boris Johnson was out with the coronavirus and Dominic Cummings was quarantined with symptoms, the British Civil Service attempted a power grab over the Brexit process and more.

There was an intended delay to the whole thing, facilitated by the British establishment, which would have caused the UK no end of complications in terms of fully extricating itself from the failing Union.

And then, Cummings was back. Something had to be done. And here we are.

The media unknowingly gave us a heads up on the plan, with the Guardian live blogging about the power vacuum at 10 Downing Street early on during Boris Johnson’s hospitalization.

The New Statesman – a leading left-wing publication – fawned over Sir Mark Sedwill, Britain’s chief bureaucrat, who happens to be virulently anti-Brexit.

Profiles appeared in Buzzfeed, Business Insider, and Sedwill’s influence was noted in the New York Times.

In short, the hysteria in Britain’s press is little to do with a man driving across the country to see his parents, or soliciting childcare from them.

It is, once again, about the political establishment with the media in tow attempting to scupper the largest democratic vote in Britain’s history: the vote to leave the European Union.

 

https://thenationalpulse.com/news/the-real-reason-dominic-cummings-is-being-hounded/

I don’t think there are any surprises there mate, nobody knew the details but I bet everyone with a brain knew the idea behind this latest witch hunt.......Cummings is our Trump......except he is probably much better educated and politically astute.

Thats why “they” all hate him same as “they” hate Trump.

[ChrisJones 7,975]

9 minutes ago, WILF said:

Thats why “they” all hate him same as “they” hate Trump.

It's an understandable reaction though, don't you think, mate?

At least from some sectors. We pay these people to govern. To lead. They tell us one thing and do the opposite. That's bad PR regardless of the outcome. The real villain of the piece is that neither side is willing to even hear the other. Fingers in the ears la la la la la I'm not listening!

[gnasher16 30,135]

What a nasty little bunch of curtain twitching c**ts people are becoming....hounding a man and his family for doing what 99 % of people have,would and are doing....how desperate are this " progressive left " mob getting in their sad desperate attempts to punish a government that had the balls to leave the Eu.....they obviously think this is the first argument in 3 years they can actually win !!....never mind all these demented seals standing shoulder to shoulder clapping on Westminster Bridge every Thursday,never mind grooming gangs,what a selective moral compass people must have to virtue signal a man into this type of hysteria and abuse..... " BE KIND " they say ......you would think changes might of been made after the turnout with that Caroline Flack bird but no.

[Jonjon79 13,358]

7 hours ago, chartpolski said:

There's an "expert" from the SAGE Committee on tv now talking about "interpreting" the rules.

I'm not sure what the rules are ! 

It was my mothers 89th birthday yesterday, she lives 10 mile away and I didn't visit her as I thought I'd be breaking the "rules". I phoned her, she said she misses the fresh eggs I give her, and aren't I allowed to deliver food to her ?

Could I make a 20 mile round trip every morning with two fresh eggs for her breakfast, or do I run the risk of some curtain twitching neighbor reporting me to the police ?

By the way, I'm not neglecting my aged mother; other family members live very near and take good care of her .

Cheers.

There's no travel restrictions in England now - take her some eggs mate

 

Better still, if you're not showing any symptoms, go and have a cuppa and a chin wag - you'll probably brighten her day a bit

[WILF 47,060]

3 minutes ago, ChrisJones said:

It's an understandable reaction though, don't you think, mate?

At least from some sectors. We pay these people to govern. To lead. They tell us one thing and do the opposite. That's bad PR regardless of the outcome. The real villain of the piece is that neither side is willing to even hear the other. Fingers in the ears la la la la la I'm not listening!

The fingers in the ears is the logical result of everything that has happened so far imho mate......it’s just not worth trying to talk sense to some sections of society (politicians included)........it’s a waste of time.

They literally do this kind of shite (much, much worse in fact) all the time.....as I said, nobody wants to talk about the serious stuff in people’s lives like their neighbourhoods getting turned into 3rd world shitholes or their daughters being raped or their gargantuan tax contributions getting pissed away like water.......yet they want to talk about this when people have been trying to talk about the other stuff and chucked in the nic for their troubles !

Nah mate, what’s the point, they killed debate not us  

[ChrisJones 7,975]

17 minutes ago, WILF said:

he fingers in the ears is the logical result of everything that has happened so far imho mate......it’s just not worth trying to talk sense to some sections of society (politicians included)........it’s a waste of time.

That's a fair assessment, mate, and depending on the individual it can be indeed a colossal waste of time. One of the easiest indicators I've seen is the phrase 'So You're Saying...' It's being used a hell of a lot more in today's media, and on discourse like we're experiencing now. When you learn to spot it you can save a shit ton of time!

17 minutes ago, WILF said:

They literally do this kind of shite (much, much worse in fact) all the time.....as I said, nobody wants to talk about the serious stuff in people’s lives like their neighbourhoods getting turned into 3rd world shitholes or their daughters being raped or their gargantuan tax contributions getting pissed away like water.......yet they want to talk about this when people have been trying to talk about the other stuff and chucked in the nic for their troubles !

Nah mate, what’s the point, they killed debate not us  

Absolutely and you're just scratching the surface.

Good job THL is still here. This constant outrage in the quest for 'correctthink' would have seen us all banned from every other platform in existence... We're truly lucky in that aspect. People only want to talk about erosion of civil liberties when it effects them and by then it's really hard to find somewhere to discuss it.

Long may it continue!

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[Jonjon79 13,358]

Cummings wouldn't give a f**k about excuses from any 1 of us if we got caught doing what he did - he's a 'do as I say' merchant.

 

He's been caught taking the piss, going off on a jolly while him and his mob told us all not to, and now he's trying to muddy the waters to save his career.

 

He should be given the same fine that we'd all get.

[chartpolski 23,812]

19 minutes ago, Jonjon79 said:

There's no travel restrictions in England now - take her some eggs mate

 

Better still, if you're not showing any symptoms, go and have a cuppa and a chin wag - you'll probably brighten her day a bit

When I was talking to her, she said what makes her angry is people equating this with the war !

She said people aren't dropping bombs on us, there's no rationing and young men aren't going off and not coming back !

People are complaining about queuing, but they can still get whatever they want, not getting to the front of the queue only for the butcher or baker telling you there's no meat or bread left !

Last of her generation, I worry about future generations........

Cheers.

[ChrisJones 7,975]

2 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

People are complaining about queuing, but they can still get whatever they want, not getting to the front of the queue only for the butcher or baker telling you there's no meat or bread left !

It's funny you should mention that, mate. I've heard a few saying that lining up for food is the failure of capitalism but quietly ignoring that the state has forced the closure of the private sector.

The cynic in me says they're preparing us for breadlines because of the authoritarian backlash that is coming... but that's for another thread!

[Nicepix 5,650]

The Press need reining in PDQ. These are the same people who were hacking the Voicemails of relatives of murder victims and celebrities not to break some important news, but for the sake of tittle-tattle. They are self obsessed and cannot be trusted. Time for the Press Complaints Commission to get some new teeth.

[Jonjon79 13,358]

13 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

When I was talking to her, she said what makes her angry is people equating this with the war !

She said people aren't dropping bombs on us, there's no rationing and young men aren't going off and not coming back !

People are complaining about queuing, but they can still get whatever they want, not getting to the front of the queue only for the butcher or baker telling you there's no meat or bread left !

Last of her generation, I worry about future generations........

Cheers.

There's a part of me that would like to see a proper collapse - most of those little pansies would be gone in short order.

 ............ they think it's armageddon when their wifi goes down ffs

[chartpolski 23,812]

2 minutes ago, Jonjon79 said:

There's a part of me that would like to see a proper collapse - most of those little pansies would be gone in short order.

 ............ they think it's armageddon when their wifi goes down ffs

When all this started, I thought " well, I've got my hens and ducks, more eggs than I can eat, maybe barter a few; two big allotments full of veg, a couple of old dogs that can still mug off a clamped hare or a roe hitting a fence, I can snare a rabbit or two, take a few roosting birds with the old BSA Meteor, wipe my arse on a dock leaf.....I'll probably survive". 

My nephew was worried about Macdonalds and KFC closing ..........

Cheers.

[kanny 20,618]

54 minutes ago, ChrisJones said:

One of the easiest indicators I've seen is the phrase 'So You're Saying...

 

 

[ChrisJones 7,975]

2 minutes ago, kanny said:

 

[ChrisJones 7,975]

35 minutes ago, Nicepix said:

The Press need reining in PDQ. These are the same people who were hacking the Voicemails of relatives of murder victims and celebrities not to break some important news, but for the sake of tittle-tattle. They are self obsessed and cannot be trusted. Time for the Press Complaints Commission to get some new teeth.

Personally, I believe there should be zero restrictions on the the free press. As individuals we need to accept that media corporations are selling a product and act therefore act accordingly. The consumption of the media reflects on the wants of the consumer. In the time of misinformation and disinformation, on this scale, the responsibility lies with the individual, IMHO...