Scouser - Coursing Dog

[juckler123 707]

35 minutes ago, two crows said:

juckler the bitch he went to was Kumasi semaramis (these pups bore the prefix barzan I dont know any thing about them), her sire was Kumasi komandan, he was the first smooth dog to be an English champion, her dam was   Kumasi rishi they were gifted to mr v  simpson Henderson by shaik shaker shaik kamandan of Iraq

Thanks again will get researching bud as it's not lineage I know of and that dog in pic is everything you'd want in a pure bred I love the history of these hounds and the old types loads 

Edited May 16, 2020 by juckler123

[juckler123 707]

24 minutes ago, two crows said:

Newark not far from us worksop way back then

We have lost loads pal you could go to Newark on a Sunday morning in the car park across from the castle and there would be loads of lads willing to go for a run happy days and no hassle

Some good hares near you too 

[juckler123 707]

23 hours ago, dodger said:

Unfortunately Kieran Mia the dam to your dog is also dead now so iv lost all that blood forever so if anyone has that special something in your kennel be careful don’t loose that blood don’t wait to long or you will regret it later atb

One of best statements I've ever read Dodger and one that is so important many say don't breed em till they are done but when they pass before their time with accidents etc and you left back at the drawing board it hurts like hell I bet lots have been there I know I have..

Best of luck for the future pal

Edited May 16, 2020 by juckler123

[keepdiggin 9,561]

4 hours ago, mushroom said:

I never pass a dog on mate, never have and never will. This boy is a cnut and not many have my patience. Plus.... he's my mate and it would kill him, we have a great bond  ...... he's my wing man

Only joking mate

 

[dodger 2,765]

1 hour ago, D Lloyd said:

Hi Dodger. I messaged you earlier you got same number.

Yes still working hard mate Cesar is 6 now no sine of slowing at all he has been a great dog to work and Owen no truble at all I have a son out of him to my old stuff and he also does the biz he's gone over few other bitches with very good results

Iv had this number a fair while but you maybe haven't got it so il pm it.

Sounds like he's done you proud over thears then and good that he's still going strong thems the ones you want he was a real fine stamp when I saw him as a younger dog, great that he produces as well lucky man, has your young lad taken a shine to the dogs yet he must be shooting up now.

[dodger 2,765]

36 minutes ago, juckler123 said:

One of best statements I've ever read Dodger and one that is so important many say don't breed em till they are done but when they pass before their time with accidents etc and you left back at the drawing board it hurts like hell I bet lots have been there I know I have..

Best of luck for the future pal

And you mate hope you keep having success with your Salukis they seem to suit you..

[tatsblisters 9,949]

2 hours ago, juckler123 said:

Awesome pics Mc

I believe your right on blue Alwyn owned down from your dad's and he was some dog I had crack with Alwyn he don't rate many and soon passed em on if they were no good he took good money on Blue and regretted parting with him and was pissed off to the max when folk started saying Geoff Smith's Blue lol 

I didn't know about fly Russ was there when Geoff bought her and no one knew her breeding but Tony Geoff's son may have found out but it was never said which Saluki she was down from but I'm hardly surprised if it wasn't one of your dad's

No one in Saluki world would let us in and to be fair I'm glad they didn't there was three pures I knew of in the Midlands Lou Edwards Trevor Russ Rowley's Prince and Hughey Weavers Rex ..

Trevor produced some of the best deer dogs I ever had the pleasure of knowing but not many good hare dogs.

Prince of Russes left the best mark on everything from only a couple of matings and was he brother to your dad's Luke ??

Rex mated every bitch on Tolney lane in Newark but had ingrowing eyelashes that he passed on so they faded from sight...

I ran with Rex and owned him in old age we would run the aerodromes he wouldn't run the tarmac but pace on the grass at the side of the hares if it was today Hughey would have been a rich man but we ran for fifteen or twenty quid back then

I bought him after he was ran into the ground and never bred from him even though I got him right and killing well again  he took to my dad and used to run to his ever chance he had so I retired him there and he stayed there till he died ATB pal

Sorry to go off topic did the Trevor dog sire the lizard.Remember some lads from Rotherham getting dogs off some one connected to the trevor dog.

[D Lloyd 2,790]

1 hour ago, dodger said:

Iv had this number a fair while but you maybe haven't got it so il pm it.

Sounds like he's done you proud over thears then and good that he's still going strong thems the ones you want he was a real fine stamp when I saw him as a younger dog, great that he produces as well lucky man, has your young lad taken a shine to the dogs yet he must be shooting up now.

Cheers.yes could not ask for more mate with him.

He loves the dogs mate he asks all the time about coming lamping he's always walking them with me they picked up a rabbit the other day he thought it was brilliant

[Gilbey 1,441]

On 16/05/2020 at 16:43, two crows said:

juckler the bitch he went to was Kumasi semaramis (these pups bore the prefix barzan I dont know any thing about them), her sire was Kumasi komandan, he was the first smooth dog to be an English champion, her dam was   Kumasi rishi they were gifted to mr v  simpson Henderson by shaik shaker shaik kamandan of Iraq

Victor Henderson with Kumasi Rihan and his daughter Risha

 

Edited May 19, 2020 by Gilbey

[Gilbey 1,441]

On 16/05/2020 at 17:15, juckler123 said:

Got you now it's definitely my age pre Alzheimer's I reckon. 

The chubasco Paul used wasn't typical type I see another breed in there was just wondering if anyone saw what I saw was what I was getting at Tomo

Some incredible hounds in USA and if I was to import it would be from a strain from there. 

The old tepe gwara line in the UK coursing dogs still doing the business on the jack's there as John took em back with him have a couple of friends there that do as we do and run them single handed and they run and herd as good as anything we have..

The state's did what the UK show lot did and run them in pairs and upwards they were never meant to do that and they lost as much as the show lot did here imho

Thankfully John and a few of his friends took on the single handed way and their hounds are well special

Durak, Tepe Gawra Durak of Ajuz

 

Edited May 19, 2020 by Gilbey

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,482]

5 minutes ago, Gilbey said:

Victor Henderson with Kumasi Rihan and his daughter Risha

Like that parti coloured dog a lot, is he in the bloodlines of the Salukis around today 

[dodger 2,765]

Kumasi Rihan looks a real nice type not like a lot of the narrow back weak specimens you tend to get these days

[Gilbey 1,441]

3 minutes ago, thefensarefarbutistillgo said:

Like that parti coloured dog a lot, is he in the bloodlines of the Salukis around today 

Yeah, including Scouser

[morton 5,368]

1 minute ago, dodger said:

Kumasi Rihan looks a real nice type not like a lot of the narrow back weak specimens you tend to get these days

Is that the dogs or the owners?.

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,482]

2 minutes ago, Gilbey said:

Yeah, including Scouser

What line of saluki go back to him then ?