From Russia with love!

[Sausagedog 7,381]

Got your again! Got treatment for it yesterday. Anyway, I've not been able to do what I wanted while off work for a few day but sit in various locations in a farm yard shooting crows. Far to rough for my best gun so I've been using my singles. This however has cost me some birds so I went and got a USSR made T0-66 sxs 12g hammer gun.

It shoots where I look so that's good.

It should make a good decoying gun but I would like to know more about them and how to date them. Any ideas?

 

SD.

[BenBhoy 4,706]

Possibly??

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tula_Arms_Plant

 

https://www.barnebys.co.uk/auctions/lot/tula-toz-66-12-gauge-s10498-kv9idd85m9

 

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/en-gb/item/56743651_tula-toz-66-side-x-side-coach-gun

[Gav 1,708]

Where do you get all these? Your ticket must look like our lasses passport stamp collection

[ianm 2,594]

2 hours ago, Sausagedog said:

Got your again! Got treatment for it yesterday. Anyway, I've not been able to do what I wanted while off work for a few day but sit in various locations in a farm yard shooting crows. Far to rough for my best gun so I've been using my singles. This however has cost me some birds so I went and got a USSR made T0-66 sxs 12g hammer gun.

It shoots where I look so that's good.

It should make a good decoying gun but I would like to know more about them and how to date them. Any ideas?

 

SD.

That looks like a substantial piece of equipment.

[Sausagedog 7,381]

9 hours ago, BenBhoy said:

Possibly??

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tula_Arms_Plant

 

https://www.barnebys.co.uk/auctions/lot/tula-toz-66-12-gauge-s10498-kv9idd85m9

 

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/en-gb/item/56743651_tula-toz-66-side-x-side-coach-gun

Thanks Ben but no way to date the blooming thing. It could go way way back to the Russian Revolution!

[Sausagedog 7,381]

9 hours ago, Gav said:

Where do you get all these? Your ticket must look like our lasses passport stamp collection

Unfortunately my local post office is a gunshop run by an ex champ shooter Duncan Lawton. I get my hands on all sorts of goodies

[Sausagedog 7,381]

8 hours ago, ianm said:

That looks like a substantial piece of equipment.

It is quite strong. Proper bores of .729" but super tight full and full at .683"&.685"!

[Meece 1,958]

2 hours ago, Sausagedog said:

It is quite strong. Proper bores of .729" but super tight full and full at .683"&.685"!

Russia is a big country so you need extra full &full to reach out to the wildfowl up in the stratosphere.   That's what  they made BAIKAL cartridges for.  They got some powder from tank sheĺls, some old copies of Pravda newspapers, a handful of pea beech, a bike spoke and a branch from a tree as a ram rod and there you go.  A six foot long muzzle flash, an ear splitting  sonic boom that would wake the dead,  the shooter sitting on his arse in the mud and twenty to thirty duck clattering down in a heap.  All you needed then was a wheelbarrow to get the slain off of the field and back home.

[Sausagedog 7,381]

2 hours ago, Meece said:

Russia is a big country so you need extra full &full to reach out to the wildfowl up in the stratosphere.   That's what  they made BAIKAL cartridges for.  They got some powder from tank sheĺls, some old copies of Pravda newspapers, a handful of pea beech, a bike spoke and a branch from a tree as a ram rod and there you go.  A six foot long muzzle flash, an ear splitting  sonic boom that would wake the dead,  the shooter sitting on his arse in the mud and twenty to thirty duck clattering down in a heap.  All you needed then was a wheelbarrow to get the slain off of the field and back home.

The good old days.....record the cartridges were. Same propellant but a plastic wad. I liked them, especially the price.

[Meece 1,958]

You could get them in a big wooden crate.  I never really used them but was given a snap pack of 10.  Pink case they were.  They had he'll of a reputation for knocking the crap out of guns.  I had an Eley Grand Prix ounce and a sixteenth =30g in L/H barrel and pink Baikal record in the R/H of my AyA 25.  A pigeon came over and the Baikal was launched.  It was different to the Grand Prix. More of a push rather than a crack.  We went to buy a thousand Winchester but they only had 500 so we bought  an extra 500 records.  These were black cases.  Jeez, I couldn't use them.!!!  In my short Barre led guns.  The muzzle flash was blinding, the recoil was viscous and all the dead in the graveyard were woken.  Bystanders within 20 paces could be stunned by the muzzle shockwave.  My mate had my 250 and I had his Winchesters.  He used them in his Franchi Hunter long recoil auto. This gun loved them and could take any goose at high altitude up there on oxygen. In fact he had to be careful of overlying jumbo jets.

[philpot 5,027]

On 13/05/2020 at 07:56, Sausagedog said:

Unfortunately my local post office is a gunshop run by an ex champ shooter Duncan Lawton. I get my hands on all sorts of goodies

Shot against Duncan on a number of competitions back in the 80's & 90's, in fact I saw him shoot the world's first 100 straight at sporting on the old Buxton Gun Club layout, great ground which made my 89 look sick. Never seen a man strip down his very well used Remmy 1100 semi auto during a competition, change a part and then smoke the targets on the next stand. A nice guy to boot and so unassuming.

Phil

[Sausagedog 7,381]

3 hours ago, philpot said:

Shot against Duncan on a number of competitions back in the 80's & 90's, in fact I saw him shoot the world's first 100 straight at sporting on the old Buxton Gun Club layout, great ground which made my 89 look sick. Never seen a man strip down his very well used Remmy 1100 semi auto during a competition, change a part and then smoke the targets on the next stand. A nice guy to boot and so unassuming.

Phil

That's the feller. Lovely family.

[Alsone 789]

 

On 12/05/2020 at 21:05, Sausagedog said:

Got your again! Got treatment for it yesterday. Anyway, I've not been able to do what I wanted while off work for a few day but sit in various locations in a farm yard shooting crows. Far to rough for my best gun so I've been using my singles. This however has cost me some birds so I went and got a USSR made T0-66 sxs 12g hammer gun.

It shoots where I look so that's good.

It should make a good decoying gun but I would like to know more about them and how to date them. Any ideas?

 

SD.

Not sure the missus is going to like what you did to her pleated curtains.....

That said, looks like a nice gun and at least you took them down first.

Edited May 16, 2020 by Alsone

[Sausagedog 7,381]

13 hours ago, philpot said:

Shot against Duncan on a number of competitions back in the 80's & 90's, in fact I saw him shoot the world's first 100 straight at sporting on the old Buxton Gun Club layout, great ground which made my 89 look sick. Never seen a man strip down his very well used Remmy 1100 semi auto during a competition, change a part and then smoke the targets on the next stand. A nice guy to boot and so unassuming.

Phil

I passed on your comments to Duncan this morning. He remembers and was clearly tickled pink

[philpot 5,027]

7 minutes ago, Sausagedog said:

I passed on your comments to Duncan this morning. He remembers and was clearly tickled pink

I am pleased to hear he is well SD.

I have not been on the competition circuit for many years now but it is always nice to bump into an old competitor as I have done a few times.  Once spoke to a guy who asked if I still shoot in that fcuking white cap,  this took me back a bit and I said I was amazed he could remember me wearing that cap.  He then said he hated that bloody cap and I asked why, his response was that he may have been shooting quite well then he would catch sight of my cap and say something like...................'oh fcuk, he's bloody here.

I know that He was beaten before I took the gun out of the slip   psychology eh what. He was not the first to pass comment either but remembering that after all these years.

Phil