Lifting lockdown

[Neobliviscaris1776 1,998]

1 hour ago, sid g said:

all sounds a bit clearer than it did last night ..

 

Pretty much normal life resumes but just remember we're still facing an extremely deadly viral pandemic.

If we were in an 'Actual Pandemic,' no restrictions would be lifted. The race is on to try and kick start the economy before the USA. 

The USA speaks and all will follow

[Lenmcharristar 9,724]

3 hours ago, Balaur said:

They've certainly found transmission is massively reduced outdoors, they won't say tennis because a lot of gyms would need to open, and all the indoor clubs. But who knows, fishing maybe but then canals will be rammed with walkers and bikes dogs etc social distance is tricky too. But again we all know places we can fish perfectly safe from close contact. 

Trust me we are praying in our club for the fishing to be relaxed

[Greyman 28,084]

9 hours ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Trust me we are praying in our club for the fishing to be relaxed

Not sure were you are but we can go fishing from Wednesday, both my sons syndicates are reopening and he’s tying rigs as we speak

[Greyman 28,084]

Just had a phone call from work and the JLR Halewood plant that I supply parts for are re opening on June 8th so I’ll be back the week before but they must be starting with a skeleton staff as the first few orders are very small, which I’m not to sad about as I like a few days off ,

[Born Hunter 17,751]

12 hours ago, Neobliviscaris1776 said:

Pretty much normal life resumes but just remember we're still facing an extremely deadly viral pandemic.

If we were in an 'Actual Pandemic,' no restrictions would be lifted. The race is on to try and kick start the economy before the USA. 

The USA speaks and all will follow

Do you know what a pandemic is? Actual pandemics differ in severity and behaviour, they don't all require lockdown. This is by definition a pandemic.

[Greyman 28,084]

4 minutes ago, timmytree said:

For anyone going fishing, be aware that it's recommended that social distancing for fishing should be increased to 15 metres.

Without sounding like to much of a snob, but the lad is on some pretty exclusive syndicates so crowding is not an Issue, he’s packing the motor and setting off at midnight

[iworkwhippets 12,507]

Well im at a loss here, I mean ive dug missen a whacking big hole in my back garden should the worst happen, so what do I do now, eh, I can either think positive and fill the bugger in, leave it, in case things get wos, or jump in and then fill the bugger in

[Neobliviscaris1776 1,998]

2 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

Do you know what a pandemic is? Actual pandemics differ in severity and behaviour, they don't all require lockdown. This is by definition a pandemic.

Yes a pandemic begins as an epidemic which has spread across all countries and borders.

If it was an 'Actual Pandemic' with the severity of which we are being told, why would we now be lifting lockdown at all or certainly not as soon as we are? Or does that just make sense now to us all.

[low plains drifter 10,288]

2 hours ago, Greyman said:

Without sounding like to much of a snob, but the lad is on some pretty exclusive syndicates so crowding is not an Issue, he’s packing the motor and setting off at midnight

sas mask and a long net ?

[Lenmcharristar 9,724]

2 hours ago, Greyman said:

Not sure were you are but we can go fishing from Wednesday, both my sons syndicates are reopening and he’s tying rigs as we speak

Northern Ireland 

[Born Hunter 17,751]

Just now, Neobliviscaris1776 said:

Yes a pandemic begins as an epidemic which has spread across all countries and borders.

If it was an 'Actual Pandemic' with the severity of which we are being told, why would we now be lifting lockdown at all or certainly not as soon as we are? Or does that just make sense now to us all.

Boom, there we go. So it is an 'actual pandemic', it's the severity you doubt. I've just got an issue with the misuse of terminology. Severity doesn't factor into the technical definition of pandemic status.

Why would they begin to lift it... Heaps of reasons, for starters we are now in a position of stability for our national epidemic, we are better prepared to implement and experiment with more intelligent and targeted countermeasures than a 'dumb' but effective lockdown. The government has always doubted how effectively they could keep the British public in lockdown and so have to consider the psychological factors i.e. weaker rules that are followed are better than stronger rules that are ignored. Then of course there is the economic aspect, lives are and always have had a £££ value, it's naive and idealistic for someone to say otherwise.

[shaaark 10,694]

12 minutes ago, timmytree said:

That's just the kind of idiot that will put us back in lockdown within a month.

 

6 minutes ago, sid g said:

thing is its allowed now so they`ll all be at it ... 

I'll give it two to three weeks.

And going on from the fishing info, howcome the social distancing guidelines for that is 15 metres, when for everything else it's been 2 metres?

[Born Hunter 17,751]

7 minutes ago, shaaark said:

And going on from the fishing info, howcome the social distancing guidelines for that is 15 metres, when for everything else it's been 2 metres?

A total guess but maybe it's because you are static. So if the wind is blowing from one peg to the next, the downwind peg will be exposed for hours to another persons respiratory droplets which increases the chance of transmission. The 2m rule was probably considered acceptable for dynamic environments (where people are passing each other, not sat still) as you are only exposed for a moment.

That's the thing with all these precautions, they just mitigate risk, they don't eliminate it and they're as simple as possible because people won't understand or accept them if they fully explained the science.

[WILF 46,588]

2 hours ago, Neobliviscaris1776 said:

 

If it was an 'Actual Pandemic' with the severity of which we are being told, why would we now be lifting lockdown at all or certainly not as soon as we are? Or does that just make sense now to us all.

Have you not figured it out yet ?.......it’s because they have pissed away the cold fortune you paid in, took out loans the size of which your average bloke can’t even write down in numbers on a bit of paper and now they can’t afford for you to stay home, be safe and look after you.

So it’s everyone back to work, start coining your money in again and cross the old fingers that not too many tens of thousands die.

From what I see of the whole operation the last few years, it really is as simple as that.

[iworkwhippets 12,507]

Well in what our wilfy boy has just said, and to be honest took the words right outa my mouth, I think I will leave the hole as it is for the time being, lots more to die yet im sorry to say