pengelli 375 Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 On 26/04/2020 at 18:03, morton said: I lined a red Fell,bred from generations of such all the pups where black.part of the reason for that is that bedlingtons,Fells/Lakeys have a common ancestry and when folk look to the origins of the black working terrier they refuse the concept that beddy blood played its part. Expand seen a few black fell types over the years with the beddy top knot on the heads 1 Quote Link to post
Blackmag 6,129 Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 On 26/04/2020 at 19:52, fat man said: My digging mate had a beddyxfell about 20 year ago, he was a good fox dog to ground and an extremely good dog to push foxes out of cover, bred over in the west, mayo if memory serves me right, but he was probably a one of. Expand There was a litter round here around the same time a accidental mating only one made anything under ground the smallest bitch the rest worked cover I think but she was the only one that would stay till dug Beth I think she was called 1 Quote Link to post
howdeeposxxt 1,448 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) On 26/04/2020 at 15:33, coco said: The patterdales a mongrel no breed standard what so ever so where does the 14/15 inch patterdales come from there’s only one other terrier that size ....... makes you think and I’ve had them 20 yrs lol atb Expand I'm not much taller than 15inchs it would make a think alright. Some my terrriers I can hide behind them out in the open and you'd never see me. Give me a black mongrel anyday over a beddy. Edited April 27, 2020 by howdeeposxxt 1 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) On 26/04/2020 at 21:41, Blackmag said: There was a litter round here around the same time a accidental mating only one made anything under ground the smallest bitch the rest worked cover I think but she was the only one that would stay till dug Beth I think she was called Expand Edited September 13, 2020 by morton Went toxic 1 Quote Link to post
coco 261 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 27/04/2020 at 14:24, howdeeposxxt said: I'm not much taller than 15inchs it would make a think alright. Some my terrriers I can hide behind them out in the open and you'd never see me. Give me a black mongrel anyday over a beddy. Expand But what’s in your mongrel,,,,,,,, names of dogs or the actual breed of the dogs behind them atb Quote Link to post
dogmandont 10,008 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 27/04/2020 at 18:05, coco said: But what’s in your mongrel,,,,,,,, names of dogs or the actual breed of the dogs behind them atb Expand Are you trying say that beddlington is the dog that made the black terriers what they are today. Quote Link to post
Apache... 2,588 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 A good digging bedlington a good digging border a good digging Lakeland/Russell in my eyes are one offs, these dogs aren't made for constant hard graft. 2 Quote Link to post
coco 261 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 27/04/2020 at 18:51, dogmandont said: Are you trying say that beddlington is the dog that made the black terriers what they are today. Expand No definaltly not but there mongrals so there bitsa terrier no standard so anything goes in the mix border Lakeland bedlington Scottish terrier fox terrier you name it ,,,, it could be in there simple how many people take kc terriers digging or bushing none we all breed for work so say bedlington / patterdales won’t work it’s foolish don’t you think atb 1 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) went toxic Edited September 13, 2020 by morton Went toxic 1 1 Quote Link to post
coco 261 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 27/04/2020 at 19:08, Apache... said: A good digging bedlington a good digging border a good digging Lakeland/Russell in my eyes are one offs, these dogs aren't made for constant hard graft. Expand So if you have black dogs A what’s the kc animals what’s made them black thanks Quote Link to post
coco 261 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 27/04/2020 at 18:51, dogmandont said: Are you trying say that beddlington is the dog that made the black terriers what they are today. Expand Mr D What kc dogs are behind your terriers because they all start somewhere atb 1 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) On 27/04/2020 at 19:08, Apache... said: A good digging bedlington a good digging border a good digging Lakeland/Russell in my eyes are one offs, these dogs aren't made for constant hard graft. Expand Edited September 13, 2020 by morton Went toxic 1 3 Quote Link to post
dogmandont 10,008 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 27/04/2020 at 19:10, morton said: I think only you read that into it,if he typed slower for the folk that don,t think to fast,you may have kept up.Its obvious that the Bedlington played its part in the development of the black Fells,its also obvious that that influence is so diluted as to make little impression on the majority of working kennels that keep line bred black terriers now.What is also patently obvious is there as been that much fiddling about with black terrier breeding that little on paper would bear the test of scrutiny in most kennels and the more famous kennels have basterdised the black terrier,for fame and fortune,more than any other. Expand Was awaiting your usual drival morton lol. Some of the more foolish lads might believe your ramblings about the mighty Bedlington and if I'm a bit slow by feck they must be brain dead to believe it. Lol. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) On 27/04/2020 at 19:59, dogmandont said: Was awaiting your usual drival morton lol. Some of the more foolish lads might believe your ramblings about the mighty Bedlington and if I'm a bit slow by feck they must be brain dead to believe it. Lol. Expand Edited September 13, 2020 by morton Went toxic Quote Link to post
coco 261 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 27/04/2020 at 19:59, dogmandont said: Was awaiting your usual drival morton lol. Some of the more foolish lads might believe your ramblings about the mighty Bedlington and if I'm a bit slow by feck they must be brain dead to believe it. Lol. Expand But you ain’t answered the question how much percentage of border bedlington lakeland cairn or Scottish terrier in your black dogs or in the pedigree you’ve been given is jock x trixie nailer x Maggie and so forth if so you ain’t got a clue what makes them great perhaps it’s the black go faster colour atb 1 Quote Link to post
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