Sheep and lambs

[fred90 3,205]

I have had a few stock breaking came naturally no problem. had others I have had to really work hard with a young dog to get it bomb proof seems all dogs are different. 

[Daniel cain 45,097]

Always found terriers to be the hardest... Lurchers are alot easier

[poxon 5,722]

I’ve found a horse long lines always a good call as the dog can be free but you still have a form of control if need be till you’re happy that the dog/pups not going to act the twat an be completely free roaming 

[SheepChaser 8,083]

23 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

There's sheep here if I jump in the motor and drive 10 mins away on a friends farm we keep horses at.... That's the mrs job.... I've not been there since February time myself staying locally walking forestry block's and a few cattle feilds checking wires and trailcams in this lockdown on a 6 mile loop twice a dayput a 12 x 10 shed up for the old duck this morning and now I'm chilling in the spaget out for a few hrs when it cools down. 

 

I can understand folks breaking his balls.... Sheep are notoriously stupid and running around in a panic can make them abort or injure themselves.... I've had similar in the past myself, when foxes were our main  thing, can't stop a dog on its tail... once in front of the farmer who was showing us roundthankfully it all ended well... Judging by his face.... its not something I would make a habit of doing

I gave a lurcher pup to friends who keep sheep.... Been around them since 8 weeks old. It can run through them and they pay no attention to her.... I found that interesting.... As if they are used to her...out of curiosity Do you find that with your own dogs and stock SheepChaser? 

Where I think the problem is, is perhaps these days a lot of dog folk don’t know as much about farming as they once did.

I (and many farmers) put their rams in, in october / November. Which means a group of ewes at that time has been put to be mates, in the first few weeks the embryo isn’t that set, and too much stress etc (or even a nutritional knock) can lead to embryos being lost, basically early stage abortion. 
 

I get one chance a year to make money out of the sheep, and if I’m honest and I saw a lad slip a Lurcher at a poxy rabbit day in with my sheep and scattered them all over to f**k, then I’d wrap the nearest heavy object around his skull.

Same at end of season, ewes will most likely be heavily pregnant and being made to panic and run, you’re often looking at embryo death, which won’t become apparent for a little while or u too lambing when they start to drop dead lambs.

Ive had it happen, it’s not nice! 
 

And yer sheep get to recognise certain dogs to be fair, they know their own!

[MH1 1,870]

2 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

Always found terriers to be the hardest... Lurchers are alot easier

I've only got a terrier so just mess around hedgerows/woods etc. He doesn't listen at the best of times lol so I just avoid sheep altogether, although he hasn't looked at them when I've had him on a long line in the field. I've noticed even the sight of a dog on a lead in the field can get them moving and it's somebody's business at the end of the day.

[bird 9,864]

47 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

Where I think the problem is, is perhaps these days a lot of dog folk don’t know as much about farming as they once did.

I (and many farmers) put their rams in, in october / November. Which means a group of ewes at that time has been put to be mates, in the first few weeks the embryo isn’t that set, and too much stress etc (or even a nutritional knock) can lead to embryos being lost, basically early stage abortion. 
 

I get one chance a year to make money out of the sheep, and if I’m honest and I saw a lad slip a Lurcher at a poxy rabbit day in with my sheep and scattered them all over to f**k, then I’d wrap the nearest heavy object around his skull.

Same at end of season, ewes will most likely be heavily pregnant and being made to panic and run, you’re often looking at embryo death, which won’t become apparent for a little while or u too lambing when they start to drop dead lambs.

Ive had it happen, it’s not nice! 
 

And yer sheep get to recognise certain dogs to be fair, they know their own!

fair point mate, yeh its a business and try to make it pay, and poxy rabbit getting caught etc dont help your job. ive never really liked running a lurcher through sheep , because few times ive been after a fox, and the bloody fox is slinking about by the bloody sheep, so the dog carnt get  proper run, what happen the got in the way when me dog tried to make a strike. i try if i can keep calling the fox away from the sheep as much as i can , hold him back , then try a slip, hopefully , we not far from the next field . ok the fox might double back to the field, or make a run to the other field, but either way i try to avoid  sheep , Buck good as you can see from pics he as to be if ran somthing    in the dark maybe next field  , you got to get it in to there head, he had couple wallops as you dog, but the wack deff sunk in, its the only way  hard lesson  learnt 

[trigger2 3,133]

Nice to see the dogs out and behaving around the stock. Lambs can behave a little different to ewes so I always think it's good for a dog to get to see them from time to time.

[morton 5,368]

5 hours ago, fred90 said:

mine ran a big rabbit on a mooch last week off winter wheat and through a field of sheep. they scattered away dog never even looked at them even on her way back, but I have no doubt a farmer would see it totally different. 

Do you understand why a farmer may think different to you?.More damage is done by a sheep running from a dog,smashed bones on gateways,throwing lambs through shock etc.Priceless.Don,t run a mutt were there is a chance a long gallop will take a lurcher through them and a dog that cannot be trusted,as many seem to own,wants a lead earing.

[fred90 3,205]

OK I will do a risk assessment next time. sheep half a mile away, check, road 100 yards away check, cattle and a resovoir 2 fields, away check. you would never let a dog off it's lead. 

[morton 5,368]

1 minute ago, fred90 said:

OK I will do a risk assessment next time. sheep half a mile away, check, road 100 yards away check, cattle and a resovoir 2 fields, away check. you would never let a dog off it's lead. 

The next time you wish to run a lurcher a week ago,seriously,in lambing season,seriously,then look for a little salvation,seriously.

[Wales1234 5,490]

4 minutes ago, fred90 said:

OK I will do a risk assessment next time. sheep half a mile away, check, road 100 yards away check, cattle and a resovoir 2 fields, away check. you would never let a dog off it's lead. 

Same here be impossible to hunt with out going near sheep

[fred90 3,205]

1 minute ago, morton said:

The next time you wish to run a lurcher a week ago,seriously,in lambing season,seriously,then look for a little salvation,seriously.

you cannot be serious man. who was running a lurcher a week ago. 

[morton 5,368]

Just now, Wales1234 said:

Same here be impossible to hunt with out going near sheep

Bollocks,if you know there are mutton within the quarry or the lurchers realm then think before you fecking slip.If you wish to hunt in lambing season,priceless fecking wankers,then think twice more.I am surrounded by sheep,im surrounded by lambs at this time of year and i cannot grasp the intellect of mindless morons that would contemplate slipping a runner amidst them now and wanting a pat on the back from another priceless prick that would advocate such.

[morton 5,368]

5 minutes ago, fred90 said:

you cannot be serious man. who was running a lurcher a week ago. 

According to your earlier post YOU.

[fred90 3,205]

1 minute ago, morton said:

Bollocks,if you know there are mutton within the quarry or the lurchers realm then think before you fecking slip.If you wish to hunt in lambing season,priceless fecking wankers,then think twice more.I am surrounded by sheep,im surrounded by lambs at this time of year and i cannot grasp the intellect of mindless morons that would contemplate slipping a runner amidst them now and wanting a pat on the back from another priceless prick that would advocate such.

you are the one talking of slipping a dog. I don't own a runner. out on a exercising every day mooch.