j j m 6,555 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 the man that put the kray twins away for life dies,95 he had a good innings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,845 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 Certainly a better innings than them couple of faggots he locked up 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, j j m said: the man that put the kray twins away for life dies,95 he had a good innings He'll have had a good pension too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,555 Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 much better innings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,555 Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 never thought of his pension Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 That's all I think about. Getting more years out than I put in He will have seen some sights working in London all those years. Slipper was another famous detective. The one that caught up with Biggs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Nicepix said: That's all I think about. Getting more years out than I put in He will have seen some sights working in London all those years. Slipper was another famous detective. The one that caught up with Biggs. Do you think he got 40 + Years of pension? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,443 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 I get the impression that he was very “correct”......you can’t do anything with people who are correct, a real pain in the arse ! Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,443 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Nicepix said: That's all I think about. Getting more years out than I put in He will have seen some sights working in London all those years. Slipper was another famous detective. The one that caught up with Biggs. The example made of the train robbers was the worst thing to happen to banks in England ever ! Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Accip74 said: Do you think he got 40 + Years of pension? I am not sure as there were changes to the Pension Agreement several times. If he was on the same scheme that I was on he would have retired aged 50 to 55, possibly a few years later if he was a senior officer and stayed on. But I don't know what the schemes were based on for bobbies starting in the 50's and 60's. When I left in 2011 I had almost done 25 years, but the final date for my service was based on the 55 year old age limit. So I retired at midnight as I became 55. The police woman I worked with was 33 and had already done 12 years, yet she still had to do more years than I had worked because the pension scheme she was on meant that she had to work into her 60's. It is a ticking time bomb that is going to cause major problems in future years. You can't expect 60 year olds to be rolling about fighting yobs and criminals and because of the civilianization of many departments there is nowhere else to work but the response teams. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, WILF said: I get the impression that he was very “correct”......you can’t do anything with people who are correct, a real pain in the arse ! Lol If he was 'correct' in the days that he worked in the Met' he would have been amongst a very small elite. Most were more bent than the criminals. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,443 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Nicepix said: If he was 'correct' in the days that he worked in the Met' he would have been amongst a very small elite. Most were more bent than the criminals. Probably why he got the job I suspect mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nicepix said: I am not sure as there were changes to the Pension Agreement several times. If he was on the same scheme that I was on he would have retired aged 50 to 55, possibly a few years later if he was a senior officer and stayed on. But I don't know what the schemes were based on for bobbies starting in the 50's and 60's. When I left in 2011 I had almost done 25 years, but the final date for my service was based on the 55 year old age limit. So I retired at midnight as I became 55. The police woman I worked with was 33 and had already done 12 years, yet she still had to do more years than I had worked because the pension scheme she was on meant that she had to work into her 60's. It is a ticking time bomb that is going to cause major problems in future years. You can't expect 60 year olds to be rolling about fighting yobs and criminals and because of the civilianization of many departments there is nowhere else to work but the response teams. My only knowledge of this comes from an ex girlfriends dad who was a desk sergeant in London retiring at 52 I think? This would of been around 2007 ish.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Nicepix said: I am not sure as there were changes to the Pension Agreement several times. If he was on the same scheme that I was on he would have retired aged 50 to 55, possibly a few years later if he was a senior officer and stayed on. But I don't know what the schemes were based on for bobbies starting in the 50's and 60's. When I left in 2011 I had almost done 25 years, but the final date for my service was based on the 55 year old age limit. So I retired at midnight as I became 55. The police woman I worked with was 33 and had already done 12 years, yet she still had to do more years than I had worked because the pension scheme she was on meant that she had to work into her 60's. It is a ticking time bomb that is going to cause major problems in future years. You can't expect 60 year olds to be rolling about fighting yobs and criminals and because of the civilianization of many departments there is nowhere else to work but the response teams. It's no different than scaffolders and a million other jobs that the tax payer doesn't have to fork out final salary pensions for for forty years after they've packed up. Infact it is different it's much much easier 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, JDHUNTING said: It's no different than scaffolders and a million other jobs that the tax payer doesn't have to fork out final salary pensions for for forty years after they've packed up. Infact it is different it's much much easier I agree about the raising of retirement age for manual workers. It is short sighted and ultimately costly to the public purse. But if you want to pick a fight over the public service pensions that include the armed forces, civil servants and other employees then blame the Governments that you voted for. They brought in the schemes and anyone could apply for a job with a final salary pension. But, don't forget that there is a compulsory levy of 11% of every police officer's wages to contribute towards the pension and the wages don't compare to many other industries. They had to make the pensions good to attract applicants as the wages were pi$$ poor. Edited April 8, 2020 by Nicepix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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