WILF 47,965 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 In fairness young people are only doing what they have been shown all their life in media and at school, go off and do university, get a degree in social tribal painting or some shite and let some wet back make you a skinny mocha choca latte in Starbucks while you “connect” on wi-fi with Zoe (age 22) the strategic team leader in Cape Town ! Manual work !......perish the thought, that’s for “them type of people” ! Don’t blame young folks, blame the culture and the propaganda ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Fruit farms in north Essex have been using foreign labour for at least 30-40 years. I know that for a fact. It’s not a sudden cultural shift. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,965 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Accip74 said: Fruit farms in north Essex have been using foreign labour for at least 30-40 years. I know that for a fact. It’s not a sudden cultural shift. No I agree mate, it go’s right back to when I was at school except then only the brightest and best went to University (not every Tom, Dick and Harry like today) and the rest of us were trained to go and work in an office.....if you didn’t want to do that then you wasn’t worth bothering with. My pal takes around 35 grand a week off his market stall but will you see “running a market stall” mentioned anywhere in school or collage?.....will you f**k ! Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, WILF said: No I agree mate, it go’s right back to when I was at school except then only the brightest and best went to University (not every Tom, Dick and Harry like today) and the rest of us were trained to go and work in an office.....if you didn’t want to do that then you wasn’t worth bothering with. My pal takes around 35 grand a week off his market stall but will you see “running a market stall” mentioned anywhere in school or collage?.....will you f**k ! Lol To be fair what you end up doing has just become way more diverse depending on your geographical location. The part of the world we are from has always been ahead on the job market compared to other parts of the country. People I went to school with went in all different directions.......the options were there. I would say those farmers in my area using foreign labour over 30 years ago was originally due to lack of local labour for seasonal work, unemployment wasn’t particularly high. It would been a mix of Eastern European’s & local students. Then gradually it becomes the norm to use foreign labour. It’s a really complex issue. I don’t have the answers......but with a historically low unemployment rate (before the virus), it stands to reason certain jobs will just be done by a certain demographic. As an aside.......when I was last in a job centre maybe in the mid 90s there was a massive demand for care home staff. That was the local joke......if you really wanted a job there were hundreds on offer! Sure enough over the years you start seeing Africans walking round the streets with sick & elderly..... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,965 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Accip74 said: To be fair what you end up doing has just become way more diverse depending on your geographical location. The part of the world we are from has always been ahead on the job market compared to other parts of the country. People I went to school with went in all different directions.......the options were there. I would say those farmers in my area using foreign labour over 30 years ago was originally due to lack of local labour for seasonal work, unemployment wasn’t particularly high. It would been a mix of Eastern European’s & local students. Then gradually it becomes the norm to use foreign labour. It’s a really complex issue. I don’t have the answers......but with a historically low unemployment rate (before the virus), it stands to reason certain jobs will just be done by a certain demographic. As an aside.......when I was last in a job centre maybe in the mid 90s there was a massive demand for care home staff. That was the local joke......if you really wanted a job there were hundreds on offer! Sure enough over the years you start seeing Africans walking round the streets with sick & elderly..... To be fair I was trying to be all mellow and level headed about it but f**k it, give the lazy hoody c**ts a good kick up he arse and make them do and f**k all the slavs off home ! Lol 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, WILF said: To be fair I was trying to be all mellow and level headed about it but f**k it, give the lazy hoody c**ts a good kick up he arse and make them do and f**k all the slavs off home ! Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 hours ago, WILF said: In fairness young people are only doing what they have been shown all their life in media and at school, go off and do university, get a degree in social tribal painting or some shite and let some wet back make you a skinny mocha choca latte in Starbucks while you “connect” on wi-fi with Zoe (age 22) the strategic team leader in Cape Town ! Manual work !......perish the thought, that’s for “them type of people” ! Don’t blame young folks, blame the culture and the propaganda ! That’s partly bollicks mate. Just as many ‘working class kids’ who’d rather hang about the estate and sell drugs or wanna be a f***ing rapper, or just can’t be fooked working. Farms now having to import Romanian labour during this virus thing as even with all of the push to it etc .... can’t get enough British applicants. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 hours ago, WILF said: In fairness young people are only doing what they have been shown all their life in media and at school, go off and do university, get a degree in social tribal painting or some shite and let some wet back make you a skinny mocha choca latte in Starbucks while you “connect” on wi-fi with Zoe (age 22) the strategic team leader in Cape Town ! Manual work !......perish the thought, that’s for “them type of people” ! Don’t blame young folks, blame the culture and the propaganda ! That’s partly bollicks mate. Just as many ‘working class kids’ who’d rather hang about the estate and sell drugs or wanna be a f***ing rapper, or just can’t be fooked working. Farms now having to import Romanian labour during this virus thing as even with all of the push to it etc .... can’t get enough British applicants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Just got a delivery of 10 litres of organic golden milk, this stuff great. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Francie said: Just got a delivery of 10 litres of organic golden milk, this stuff great. Nice one Francie 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetro 5,349 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 It does not make any sense that in the teeth of an global pandemic when you or I cannot travel 3 km down the road, when we will have 1 million people on state welfare that an empty Ryanair flight was sent to Sofia Bulgaria and returned home with187 workers holding letters to pick fruit in North Dublin. It has been reported to me that the workers had no medical examination or risk assessment when they landed. This practice must be investigated. In Ireland today. Doesn't make sence Atb j Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,661 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Turn the tinterweb off for a few weeks an you soo see a lot more folk Willing to work .... I said the same the other day when everyone in.my house was sat glued to screens, when it was boiling outside.... Corona virus is drop in the ocean compared to no wifi for a few weeks ...f***ing mental!! Lol (How ironic.. I know ok..lol) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,766 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, W. Katchum said: Turn the tinterweb off for a few weeks an you soo see a lot more folk Willing to work Perish the thought 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,965 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 hours ago, SheepChaser said: That’s partly bollicks mate. Just as many ‘working class kids’ who’d rather hang about the estate and sell drugs or wanna be a f***ing rapper, or just can’t be fooked working. Farms now having to import Romanian labour during this virus thing as even with all of the push to it etc .... can’t get enough British applicants. What I’m saying is mate, for lots (not all) this is learned behaviours from years of being programmed to embrace shit outside cultures and communities thrown on the scrap heap because it was cheaper to import things and people......and if it was learned it can be unlearned too. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,349 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 I live in the middle of an old time part of England , next door to me is pigs as far as the eyes can see , a free range chicken farm , up the road is a farm stud colony , bit further lobster boats and a small seafood plant . There’s shoots , factored estates ( that’s the word we used where I’m from of a load of small farms under one umbrella) boat builders , endless amounts of small independent shops on the estate I live in , there is dozens of teenagers sat playing music and kerby on the road . Not a summer job or weekend between them. My mam just wouldn’t have stood for that . I couldn’t have not went to chase a quid , even if it had been scrubbing boats or painting fences. Shocking the mentality of some of the kids these days 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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