Daniel cain 46,112 Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 What I should of said was.... Just be careful that you don't have your pants pulled down I'd never personally buy a sapling/adult working dog from the fools book, dragon driving pages..... Take your time, don't be in a rush.... There's been a few chancy litters advised on here last few months, and a few in the pipeline.... As you probably know... Certain type dogs these days will get you nothing but grief and bring things on topbefore you get started. Hope you get sorted, stay safe 3 Quote Link to post
oddser 79 Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 20 hours ago, shaaark said: With those breeds in the mix, it certainly shouldn't need any fancy trainers on it's feet That's right they make good all rounders out of most crosses that are out there would be my choice but that is just my opinion Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,907 Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, oddser said: That's right they make good all rounders out of most crosses that are out there would be my choice but that is just my opinion Only seen a couple bred similar. Sire was tor of dartmoor, dam was a 1st x deer/grey. Didn't see them working though. Only saw them up until they were about 10 months old. Dog and bitch kept back out of litter. Bitch was pretty racy and light, dog threw to deerhound size and build, but smooth coated, 30 1/2" tts at 10 months. Looked quite awkward and uncoordinated when he started running, but would probably have got it together as he matured Edited April 3, 2020 by shaaark Quote Link to post
oddser 79 Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 48 minutes ago, shaaark said: Only seen a couple bred similar. Sire was tor of dartmoor, dam was a 1st x deer/grey. Didn't see them working though. Only saw them up until they were about 10 months old. Dog and bitch kept back out of litter. Bitch was pretty racy and light, dog threw to deerhound size and build, but smooth coated, 30 1/2" tts at 10 months. Looked quite awkward and uncoordinated when he started running, but would probably have got it together as he matured Years ago they were all the rage but back then lads only did rabbits n hares they were perfect for this work but new generation of lurcher men want to hunt fox deer so have gone on to bull breeds 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,907 Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, oddser said: Years ago they were all the rage but back then lads only did rabbits n hares they were perfect for this work but new generation of lurcher men want to hunt fox deer so have gone on to bull breeds No mate, the guy that bred the litter used to lamp and catch more fox than anyone I know. He had a pair of collie/grey x whippet/grey lurchers, brother and sister, that caught hundreds. Caught plenty of deer too. He never owned a bull cross. Don't know if ge's still into dogs now, not spoken to him in over 20 years Quote Link to post
oddser 79 Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, shaaark said: No mate, the guy that bred the litter used to lamp and catch more fox than anyone I know. He had a pair of collie/grey x whippet/grey lurchers, brother and sister, that caught hundreds. Caught plenty of deer too. He never owned a bull cross. Don't know if ge's still into dogs now, not spoken to him in over 20 years They will do the job said they were allrounders but lads have gone onto bull x because they think they are better for fox n deer like I said just my opinion they are the best all-round breed Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,907 Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 hours ago, oddser said: They will do the job said they were allrounders but lads have gone onto bull x because they think they are better for fox n deer like I said just my opinion they are the best all-round breed Actually, the dogs I mentioned were sire collie/grey x whippet/grey, dam was a greyhound Quote Link to post
TheWiz4rd 11 Posted April 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 No i might have not explained properly im not getting nowt of DD and Its a pup but more of a companion ive just lost the old boy 18 years old few month back id just rather have a nice lurcher for the boys than one of these new breed things that cost a fortune and cant breathe when running up the stairs, Ive always done the mountain biking up the trails with the dogs aswell so something Capable of tagging along is just a bonus. it dont need to be a world beater and although the games changed ill not fk about with fools. i just posted that pic as an example of what i like, i have 3 similar on prof pic. The lineage not a huge deal ive had two from non working line and one from grafters and all 3 have done the business. I just couldn’t find nowt along that stamp so was hoping might catch someones eye Theres land still there when needed for the rabbits but im not going to be out every weekend on the lamp. Ive had the motor taken before on few occasions and some bad fines so poaching aint happening i cant run nee more anymore anyway. Ive attached a pic of the daaargz white one was the old boy 8 Quote Link to post
oddser 79 Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 hours ago, shaaark said: Actually, the dogs I mentioned were sire collie/grey x whippet/grey, dam was a greyhound 6 hours ago, shaaark said: Only seen a couple bred similar. Sire was tor of dartmoor, dam was a 1st x deer/grey. Didn't see them working though. Only saw them up until they were about 10 months old. Dog and bitch kept back out of litter. Bitch was pretty racy and light, dog threw to deerhound size and build, but smooth coated, 30 1/2" tts at 10 months. Looked quite awkward and uncoordinated when he started running, but would probably have got it together as he matured Are you trying to wind me up Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,708 Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 37 minutes ago, oddser said: Are you trying to wind me up Take no notice mate, he's a harmless soul, he'll be at a loss with the domino club being on lockdown 2 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,907 Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 50 minutes ago, oddser said: Are you trying to wind me up What's so hard to understand? I first said the dogs in question were collie/grey x whippet/grey. But then remembered they were sire collie/grey x whippet/grey and the dam of them was a greyhound. Same owner, different dogs Quote Link to post
Black neck 16,164 Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 43 minutes ago, shaaark said: What's so hard to understand? I first said the dogs in question were collie/grey x whippet/grey. But then remembered they were sire collie/grey x whippet/grey and the dam of them was a greyhound. Same owner, different dogs Blessed 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,907 Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Black neck said: Blessed 1 Ok then blacky, I ask you the same question. Read my posts in this thread, and see if you get confused In response to oddser's post, I said an old aquaintance of mine bred a litter of saluki x deer/grey pups by tor of dartmoor. He said that years ago, that sort of cross was pretty common, but sort of fell by the wayside when people started to 'target' fox and deer, favouring bull crosses. I replied 'no mate', the same guy that bred the sal/deer/grey pups used to own a pair, brother and sister, of collie/grey x whippet/greys, that were excellent fox dogs that also killed deer. And he never owned a bull cross. Then I remembered that those pair of dogs were sired by a collie/grey x whippet/grey, and the dam to them was a greyhound. Not really that difficult to work out Edited April 3, 2020 by shaaark Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,470 Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 hours ago, TheWiz4rd said: No i might have not explained properly im not getting nowt of DD and Its a pup but more of a companion ive just lost the old boy 18 years old few month back id just rather have a nice lurcher for the boys than one of these new breed things that cost a fortune and cant breathe when running up the stairs, Ive always done the mountain biking up the trails with the dogs aswell so something Capable of tagging along is just a bonus. it dont need to be a world beater and although the games changed ill not fk about with fools. i just posted that pic as an example of what i like, i have 3 similar on prof pic. The lineage not a huge deal ive had two from non working line and one from grafters and all 3 have done the business. I just couldn’t find nowt along that stamp so was hoping might catch someones eye Theres land still there when needed for the rabbits but im not going to be out every weekend on the lamp. Ive had the motor taken before on few occasions and some bad fines so poaching aint happening i cant run nee more anymore anyway. Ive attached a pic of the daaargz white one was the old boy Just watch the classifieds you'll get something like that Prob being picky but they don't look anything like that woolly saluki type on DD 1 Quote Link to post
TheWiz4rd 11 Posted April 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gilbey said: Just watch the classifieds you'll get something like that Prob being picky but they don't look anything like that woolly saluki type on DD No mate they dont have to exact same stamp as these, the post from DD looked a smart dog so would fancy that sort. ill keep checking on there was kinda hoping one of the lads who keeps pups off adverts would catch the post. Thanks all Quote Link to post
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