Covid 19: What’s the lesson ?

[WILF 47,066]

3 minutes ago, jetro said:

 

Britain has all that's as well wilf, same as all European countries, all it has to do is bring it back to life again, teach it to their kids, don't hide it or forget about it, or think it doesn't matter in this day and age. 

Atb j 

It does mate but it is rejected, ignored and not given a second thought.

 

[WILF 47,066]

2 minutes ago, king said:

They banned kids singing ba ba black sheep In schools mate.and that was a good while ago and the start of it.

 

Maybe I am a bit odd but I have always spoken to my kids about their history, pointed out what I think is nonsense, told them why their blood matters etc etc 

[jetro 5,349]

Just now, king said:

They banned kids singing ba ba black sheep In schools mate.and that was a good while ago and the start of it.

 

And that's where the problem is.

How the hell do they compare singing a song about a black sheep to racism, pc, gone nuts. 

Things like this is no good for any fourm of multiculturalism, it only makes the divide bigger. Their doing to themselves 

Atb j 

 

 

 

[jetro 5,349]

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

It does mate but it is rejected, ignored and not given a second thought.

 

Then teach it at home if the schools won't. 

When we were going to school, we were taught all about our ancient history, from the high kings of Ireland, Finn mccúl and the irish warrior race ect ect. 

About local, pagan Gods and their names sakes. 

This the fiber of a country and its people, it's history good and bad. 

Not to be made feel ashamed  for what you ancestors did in the past, or to be blamed for it.

Atb j 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

18 minutes ago, jetro said:

"Over here, I think the fact they have a language that’s ancient and uniquely theirs helps hold the culture and heritage in place......and they are fiercely proud and protective of it.

Its interwoven with tales and songs and characters from way back in the past (back as far as the first kings of Ireland) and that imho can only be a good thing."

Britain has all that's as well wilf, same as all European countries, all it has to do is bring it back to life again, teach it to their kids, don't hide it or forget about it, or think it doesn't matter in this day and age. 

Atb j 

Just a shame the English stamped out so many languages and traditions  

[SheepChaser 8,089]

10 minutes ago, jetro said:

And that's where the problem is.

How the hell do they compare singing a song about a black sheep to racism, pc, gone nuts. 

Things like this is no good for any fourm of multiculturalism, it only makes the divide bigger. Their doing to themselves 

Atb j 

 

 

 

On a side note ...... this never actually happened. 

[jetro 5,349]

2 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

Just a shame the English stamped out so many languages and traditions  

Yes they did, terrible shame.

Just look at Ireland Wales Scotland and Cornwall, language nearly wiped out, but it's still there and making a come back.

It happened, right or wrong, no-one to blame today for it happening.

It does prove it doesn't work, multiculturalism,  we see what it has done to other counties.

By all means, yes have differant races, cultures ect ect living here with us, learn from them and teach what we know. 

But never change your culture, your faith, believes traditions, to accommodate others, or in case you might offend others that don't hold your countries way in they you do.

Atb j 

 

 

[king 11,972]

26 minutes ago, WILF said:

Maybe I am a bit odd but I have always spoken to my kids about their history, pointed out what I think is nonsense, told them why their blood matters etc etc 

If you don't mate no-one else will.

[WILF 47,066]

14 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

On a side note ...... this never actually happened. 

Here’s a question for you mate, now obviously from your previous posts I understand that you take a very different view on this subject than me so I’ll ask, you are a farmer that specialises in sheep and I take it that you give genetics some thought in that process.......would you allow me to bring any random ram and breed it to all your best ewes ?

You don’t know anything about it, you don’t know it’s health status or traits of previous offspring and it’s a completely different breed..........would you allow it to cover your flock? 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

25 minutes ago, WILF said:

Here’s a question for you mate, now obviously from your previous posts I understand that you take a very different view on this subject than me so I’ll ask, you are a farmer that specialises in sheep and I take it that you give genetics some thought in that process.......would you allow me to bring any random ram and breed it to all your best ewes ?

You don’t know anything about it, you don’t know it’s health status or traits of previous offspring and it’s a completely different breed..........would you allow it to cover your flock? 

I’m with you on a lot of stuff you say, as much as that would probably surprise you. 
 

Taking the sheep metaphor on - no I would never use a ram with no knowledge of its health status or EBV (estimates breeding values - based on tracking its offspring, and other relatives etc)

However - if I did know that stuff, the breed, type and what colour it’s face was, would have no bearing what so ever, if I thought it added something I wanted to add or had some positive traits etc.

So what I’m saying is that knowing all of the stuff above is important - but I will always go for function over form.

Or as a smart man once said, a good dog is never a bad colour ......

[low plains drifter 10,599]

11 hours ago, king said:

I can't spend the rest of my life in 1 little valley mate.

It's like that film Ground hog day people who only can talk about what they done 20yrs ago because they don't do feck all now. apart from drink and drugs.

And having to say hello and make idel chat etc to the same people all my life 

That ain't for me to be honest.

And it's not I'm ignorant in any way.

But simply bored stupid of the same routine constantly.

Fuckun hell

[shaaark 10,831]

13 hours ago, WILF said:

They can be 100% white, England, Scotland and Wales didn’t exist until fairly recently in the scheme of things.

Almost none of the country’s in modern Europe existed prior to about 800-850 (that’s just off the top of my head)

I also believe that in terms of world demographic , white people are very much a minority.

Check this for me wilf. Just did a bit of googling, and it says, the first king of ireland, was Henry V111, and the first queen catherine parr, in 1541, after doing away with the title 'lordship of ireland'. That being the case, how long does one actually go back in history, to try to categorise what we are today? The first scandinavian settlers? The norman conquest of enger land, that were anglo saxons etc etc?

I used to love all this ancient history caper, but my interest is dwindling as my age is increasing lol

 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

Just now, shaaark said:

Check this for me wilf. Just did a bit of googling, and it says, the first king of ireland, was Henry V111, and the first queen catherine parr, in 1541, after doing away with the title 'lordship of ireland'. That being the case, how long does one actually go back in history, to try to categorise what we are today? The first scandinavian settlers? The norman conquest of enger land, that were anglo saxons etc etc?

I used to love all this ancient history caper, but my interest is dwindling as my age is increasing lol

 

It does always make me giggle a bit - usually those who are the most devoutly BRITISH are the English. 
 

A nation made up of successive waves of invaders and settlers.

Its the Celts of this land who are the true fore fathers - not a bunch of invasive Saxons who came here for economic and social reasons and who stayed on - most blotting out the culture, religion and identity of those who had inhabited these lands before them ......

[jetro 5,349]

"Its the Celts of this land who are the true fore fathers - not a bunch of invasive Saxons who came here for economic and social reasons and who stayed on - most blotting out the culture, religion and identity of those who had inhabited these lands before them ......"

never a truer word spoken, very well put.

thank you for putting into words, what i tried and failed to do.

Atb j

 

 

[jetro 5,349]

12 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Check this for me wilf. Just did a bit of googling, and it says, the first king of ireland, was Henry V111, and the first queen catherine parr, in 1541, after doing away with the title 'lordship of ireland'. That being the case, how long does one actually go back in history, to try to categorise what we are today? The first scandinavian settlers? The norman conquest of enger land, that were anglo saxons etc etc?

I used to love all this ancient history caper, but my interest is dwindling as my age is increasing lol

 

In a 1167 diarmuid mac murchada brought the English into Ireland to help fight his enemies to get his crown back, after the was exiled to France.

King Henry 11 was king of England that time.

Atb j