Dogs pulling of stuff they know they can’t catch. Good or bad?

[trigger2 3,137]

I’ve been discussing something on another thread and during the discussion the sentence (most I’ve seen don’t pull off stuff they know is gonna get away and that like some dogs we know of lol.) So I was just wondering

What’s your thoughts on a dog that pulls away from stuff it knows it can’t catch?

Would you say it’s a fault or a good thing and just down to a good experienced brain?

 

personally I think it is a good thing as it conserves energy on Long hard sessions and also I don’t think I would want a dog following into some of the areas I run as there’s a high chance of injury’s happening.  

[C.green 3,229]

A dog pretty much jacking is not for me. If i put the lamp on something i want a dog to try not think ah bit hard find me an easier one.some could say its handler error though overunning a dog on silly things either way its not something id tolerate.

[Havelightforcewilltravel 417]

Could not keep a dog that pulled off quarry many times them long slips into darkness are best runs dog that pulls off quarry lacks heart and heart is most important thing in a running dog.

[Black neck 15,878]

It is what it is me old bitch will sometimes look at me [BANNED TEXT] I'm shining on somat and say in dog language 

Dunt talk like a c**t 

It's not really what required tho 

[Allan P 1,149]

If the dog is in it’s prime, not injured and fit then it would be an issue. 

[trigger2 3,137]

For the lads with hard running style dogs Do you  get through many dogs from losses by death through running new land  and pressured quarry taking a dogs into dangerous places?  

[trigger2 3,137]

8 minutes ago, Black neck said:

It is what it is me old bitch will sometimes look at me [BANNED TEXT] I'm shining on somat and say in dog language 

Dunt talk like a c**t 

It's not really what required tho 

Sounds a bit different to what I am skiing blacky sounds like picking the odd run.

[trigger2 3,137]

28 minutes ago, C.green said:

A dog pretty much jacking is not for me. If i put the lamp on something i want a dog to try not think ah bit hard find me an easier one.some could say its handler error though overunning a dog on silly things either way its not something id tolerate.

From that quality in a dog do you then choose more suitable quarry to run so as you don’t cause a dog with that mentality to jack by running stupid stuff it’s probably never going to catch as you know the dog will run anything.

[fred90 3,208]

I like a out and out tryer. I like a dog that tries at everything rather than a thinker. I think its similar to calling a dog off quarry it would always be in back of my mind if the dog is really trying. 

Edited March 13, 2020 by fred90

[Black neck 15,878]

11 minutes ago, trigger2 said:

Sounds a bit different to what I am skiing blacky sounds like picking the odd run.

Definitely is picking runs mate only happens on rabbits out else gets run if it's in next county 

Weird 

[trigger2 3,137]

9 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Definitely is picking runs mate only happens on rabbits out else gets run if it's in next county 

Weird 

Some dogs get like that over the old bunny when’s there more exciting stuff about I believe mate. Its nice to get folks opinions on stuff, I think the question I’ve asked about a tryer and a thinker is the lurcher worlds equivalent to the air gunners question on which is the pest air riffle .22 or .177. It’s a age old argument.

[Shadow100 1,066]

Unless it’s a serious injury that means the dog physically can’t carry on then it’s a waste of kennel space, owner can justify it however they want if it makes them feel better but that’s the bottom line

[SheepChaser 8,083]

I think it needs qualifying ?

Do you mean a dog that’s been slipped, starts to run it’s quarry  and then thinks no, bugger that, and comes off ...... or a dog you slip at something that’s way off and motoring for the wood and the dog doesn’t bother running it properly as it’s clearly away?

I personally like a dog that will run like it believes it’s going to make a kill, every time. But it doesn’t always mean it will. 
 

Side note - my young bitch used to smash any cover at 100 miles an hour..... no matter what she could or couldn’t see was in front of her. She doesn’t do that anymore ...... kind of learnt her lesson going off the edge of a 30 foot quarry ..... by choice, after her quarry. Jumped straight off the top, whacked what she was after, but bruised her lungs, pulled all her leg muscles etc .....

[dogmad riley 1,343]

With regards to pulling off stuff when would you right the dog off? 

1st season or give it another season to fully mature? 

[Gilbey 1,432]

How does the dog know it can't catch it if it doesn't try