Coronavirus

[Francie 6,368]

3 minutes ago, king said:

What can the normal folk do mate.

Take the jab

Or face death.. 

That's the question.

My sons missus is due to give birth in October.

And I want to be here for that very reason.

Grandad king

I don't have the answers mate, but think of it like this, 60,000 die every year in England with the flu,how many have been vaccinated, an how man haven't? which strain I don't know, so the vaccines are not working, or there's just to many different types or virusus for it to be effective. 

Think about this for a second, whichever method the vaccine is being incubated in, Aborted baby cells or animals cells, when that vaccine goes into your body, the dna or rna of that animal or Aborted baby will be inside you, what will your immune system think of that? Not to mention the the chemicals that wrek our brains an nervous systems? 

It's a c**t but I'd rather go without. 

Oh an congrats on the gran kid coming, wish you all the best bud. 

[Francie 6,368]

5 minutes ago, timmytree said:

I know that, but this virus is different in the way it behaves, the way it infects. Look how long it takes to show in some people, some have no symptoms at all.

We are in the dark on this one, not quite as bad as during the Spanish flu (should be called American duck flu) but right now we have no vaccine, no proven treatment and even fit and healthy people are dying. That's when we are coming into better weather and summer when most viruses die back. What is going to happen come autumn when it makes a comeback?

That leads me to another question, all this crack about when it makes a comeback. 

So we're do these virus be hiding before they come back? 

They need a host to survive, so we're are they before they enter a host? 

How does a virus come into existence, especially if it needs a host to survive an replicate, what is the virus shelf life? 

These are not directed at you mate, just in general. 

[Chid 6,623]

1 minute ago, Francie said:

That leads me to another question, all this crack about when it makes a comeback. 

So we're do these virus be hiding before they come back? 

They need a host to survive, so we're are they before they enter a host? 

How does a virus come into existence, especially if it needs a host to survive an replicate, what is the virus shelf life? 

These are not directed at you mate, just in general. 

Viruses are every where they evolve and mutate , could start out in one animal and mutate and infect others

[king 11,984]

10 minutes ago, Francie said:

I don't have the answers mate, but think of it like this, 60,000 die every year in England with the flu,how many have been vaccinated, an how man haven't? which strain I don't know, so the vaccines are not working, or there's just to many different types or virusus for it to be effective. 

Think about this for a second, whichever method the vaccine is being incubated in, Aborted baby cells or animals cells, when that vaccine goes into your body, the dna or rna of that animal or Aborted baby will be inside you, what will your immune system think of that? Not to mention the the chemicals that wrek our brains an nervous systems? 

It's a c**t but I'd rather go without. 

Oh an congrats on the gran kid coming, wish you all the best bud. 

Well mate they must of jabbed me with blue whale DNA as a baby.

Because I've got massive knob on me.

So jab away I say mate

[king 11,984]

6 minutes ago, Francie said:

That leads me to another question, all this crack about when it makes a comeback. 

So we're do these virus be hiding before they come back? 

They need a host to survive, so we're are they before they enter a host? 

How does a virus come into existence, especially if it needs a host to survive an replicate, what is the virus shelf life? 

These are not directed at you mate, just in general. 

Maybe it's a fast mutation to the gene mate.

Where as nature.living animals evolve a lot slower.through evolution.

But we have been here in such debate before mate.

And the answers to questions I have had have been very interesting.

They ain't been the answers or the way I think.

But still I respect your thoughts and answers to different debates.

I read a bit on the Spanish flu this afternoon.

Death was very quick within the second wave.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/topics/world-war-i/1918-flu-pandemic

[Francie 6,368]

4 minutes ago, Chid said:

Viruses are every where they evolve and mutate , could start out in one animal and mutate and infect others

Yeah Chid, there in plants an animals an humans, an bacteria. 

So if that's the case they need a host to live, so we're are they before they get into a host if they can't survive outside one? 

So either it's like a roundabout we're somethings infected constantly an lies dormant or it's created of footered way in a lab? 

I can't get my head around how the first virus materialised? 

They haven't got the mechanism to replicate unless they take over the host cells, an use it, so how the feck did they come about? 

Would it not make sense to say that virus are made in the body, that's why they can't survive, damaged dna turned to a virus or something lol I don't know

[Francie 6,368]

2 minutes ago, king said:

Maybe it's a fast mutation to the gene mate.

Where as nature.living animals evolve a lot slower.through evolution.

But we have been here in such debate before mate.

And the answers to questions I have had have been very interesting.

They ain't been the answers or the way I think.

But still I respect your thoughts and answers to different debates.

I read a bit on the Spanish flu this afternoon.

Death was very quick within the second wave.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/topics/world-war-i/1918-flu-pandemic

Yeah something gone wrong in the host dna or cells, so does that not prove that it's the body of human or animal who creates the virus? 

So this is another confusing one, the second wave comes an more die, so we're does that leave the vaccine? 

On the first wave should people not have built up antibodies, the same thing a vaccine touted to do? 

[Francie 6,368]

21 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

50-60k per year in the whole of Europe Francie

Not England Alone.

There are a lot of more questions than answers re this virus at the moment 

It's real ' it's killing and it's getting closer to home around here.

Whuan near market ?

A lab ?

The Chineese

The Yanks?

Some Lone Ranger ?

Who knows.

One thing I do know

Mosr Governments did to little to late and they still dragging their feet .

 

How's it going max, I just looked an the WHO of all people say 500,000 a year around the world die from flu, vaccines don't seem to work. 

[king 11,984]

6 minutes ago, Francie said:

Yeah something gone wrong in the host dna or cells, so does that not prove that it's the body of human or animal who creates the virus? 

So this is another confusing one, the second wave comes an more die, so we're does that leave the vaccine? 

On the first wave should people not have built up antibodies, the same thing a vaccine touted to do? 

What I can gather is the second wave is a mutated form of the first virus mate.

It's like a super charged virus.

That just hits us full bore and well that's it death.

To be honest mate.

I told the wife a few days ago.

Between all the forms of cancer.and every other disease that can kill.

Fatal road crash.accidents etc.

We are all lucky to just be alive.

Just like that tom fella who raised all that money.

Just think of how many people he has known who has died.

 

[Francie 6,368]

2 minutes ago, king said:

What I can gather is the second wave is a mutated form of the first virus mate.

It's like a super charged virus.

That just hits us full bore and well that's it death.

To be honest mate.

I told the wife a few days ago.

Between all the forms of cancer.and every other disease that can kill.

Fatal road crash.accidents etc.

We are all lucky to just be alive.

Just like that tom fella who raised all that money.

Just think of how many people he has known who has died.

 

Your right king, we could wake up dead in the morning, nothings guaranteed mate, Atb to you an yours an new wee baby coming you must be excited? 

[king 11,984]

@Francie 

There are some very clever people amongst us mate.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-selection.htm

[king 11,984]

2 minutes ago, Francie said:

Your right king, we could wake up dead in the morning, nothings guaranteed mate, Atb to you an yours an new wee baby coming you must be excited? 

I can't quite get my head around it to be honest mate.

I don't think it will hit home untill I see the baby to be honest.

My 3 lads have grown up so fast that summer days swimming in the river seem a long time ago lol.

A little wet suit will be bought in 2yrs lol.

Like reliving the olden days mate.

[Francie 6,368]

2 minutes ago, king said:

I can't quite get my head around it to be honest mate.

I don't think it will hit home untill I see the baby to be honest.

My 3 lads have grown up so fast that summer days swimming in the river seem a long time ago lol.

A little wet suit will be bought in 2yrs lol.

Like reliving the olden days mate.

Time waits for no man King, youl have a new wee mucker to make memories with mate, atb

[Francie 6,368]

9 minutes ago, timmytree said:

Viruses mutate all the time, they adapt to survive. The only thing that holds them back is vaccines or starving them of hosts.

That's why flu vaccines aren't always successful, some flu strains get stronger or weaker each year and if humans pick the wrong ones to include in the vaccine then we have more deaths.

Thanks mate, but it doesn't answer the question as is, we're are the virus when they ain't got a host? 

So say we could starve the corona virus of hosts, could the virus be wiped out? 

[Francie 6,368]

Nothing to do with corona but you couldn't make this shit up, solar panels chips are made from mined quartz an coal ffs so Michael Moore has found out