SportingWhippetdog 21 Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 Got a 3 yr old whippet dog that I've started lamping properly with recently. We've a couple now on the lamp, which is ok going around us for 30 minutes work in a couple of fields behind us. But when he does catch them he tends to shake and kill and won't retrieve. I run up to him and have to pry his jaws open to get the half dead thing out his mouth. He a good retriever with dummies. I just want to know if this is a sign of inexperience or if it's not normal, thanks. Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,989 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 Next 1 he catches run off instead 1 Quote Link to post
poxon 5,741 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 Worst thing to do is go to the dog. if it’s returning dummies to hand regular it can do what your asking but I guess it’s down to experience /excitement next time it has a catch call the dog show how excited you are with the catch An how happy you are about the catch f**k all this bullshit about making noise your at the beginning an learning a dog the ropes You do what it takes to get what you need from the dog if the dog picks the catch up an starts to walk towards you start walking Backwards away putting distance between you an the dog 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,787 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 Like poxon above said, as soon as he makes a catch, quick whistle and walk away, and crouch down to get him in to you. If he stops on the way back to you, whistle and walk away again until he comes to you, praising him quietly while you take the rabbit off him. Might take a few sessions to get him out of his current behaviour. BUT, I've had four pure whippets, and only one would retrieve live to hand, the others being VERY hard mouthed lol. I think it's a whippet thing lol. Good luck with it 2 Quote Link to post
JAE B 550 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 11 hours ago, SportingWhippetdog said: Got a 3 yr old whippet dog that I've started lamping properly with recently. We've a couple now on the lamp, which is ok going around us for 30 minutes work in a couple of fields behind us. But when he does catch them he tends to shake and kill and won't retrieve. I run up to him and have to pry his jaws open to get the half dead thing out his mouth. He a good retriever with dummies. I just want to know if this is a sign of inexperience or if it's not normal, thanks. Would rather that than a dog that doesn’t mouth at all Quote Link to post
fred90 3,234 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 2 hours ago, shaaark said: Like poxon above said, as soon as he makes a catch, quick whistle and walk away, and crouch down to get him in to you. If he stops on the way back to you, whistle and walk away again until he comes to you, praising him quietly while you take the rabbit off him. Might take a few sessions to get him out of his current behaviour. BUT, I've had four pure whippets, and only one would retrieve live to hand, the others being VERY hard mouthed lol. I think it's a whippet thing lol. Good luck with it I have always had beddywhippets and none retrieved. put it down to Bedlington in them but not sure now. this one has Jaws like a gin trap. 2 Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,100 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 The whippets I've seen and had vary wildly with retrieving,my best bitch now brought her first rabbit back and never has since,just holds them until I pick them up,she likes them going in the bag so isn't possessive.She does everthing else better than any other dog I've had.I had a male whippet lurcher that was to me useless in every respect except retrieving,as good as any gun dog but faster.I don't believe you can train every dog to retrieve and to me it's not that big a deal. Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,787 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, Aussie Whip said: The whippets I've seen and had vary wildly with retrieving,my best bitch now brought her first rabbit back and never has since,just holds them until I pick them up,she likes them going in the bag so isn't possessive.She does everthing else better than any other dog I've had.I had a male whippet lurcher that was to me useless in every respect except retrieving,as good as any gun dog but faster.I don't believe you can train every dog to retrieve and to me it's not that big a deal. Agree with that to a large degree. I've had dogs that were a doddle with retrieve training, others would drive you to distraction lol. My best retriever of totally unharmed rabbits and hares, my old collie/mongrel x lurcher, wouldn't retrieve anything, and I mean anything, balls, dummies, shot birds, nothing, other than rabbits and hares. Dogs eh, drive you mad Edited February 15, 2020 by shaaark 2 Quote Link to post
JAE B 550 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 14 hours ago, Dougal McGuire said: have you tried hitting it a dig on the head Quote Link to post
green lurchers 16,668 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) Does dog retrieve rabbits during day ? Edited February 15, 2020 by green lurchers Quote Link to post
bird 9,916 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 4 hours ago, JAE B said: lol Quote Link to post
bird 9,916 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 14/02/2020 at 12:32, Aussie Whip said: The whippets I've seen and had vary wildly with retrieving,my best bitch now brought her first rabbit back and never has since,just holds them until I pick them up,she likes them going in the bag so isn't possessive.She does everthing else better than any other dog I've had.I had a male whippet lurcher that was to me useless in every respect except retrieving,as good as any gun dog but faster.I don't believe you can train every dog to retrieve and to me it's not that big a deal. you are right regards retrieving , some running dogs never will bring back it quarry. most of my colliexs were not bad retrievers , bryn brought back from 80-100yds or more , but as he got older it dropped few yards, my best retriever ever got to be Buck , he never really had much training i think it was natural in him. i had lurcherx lurcher bitch 90% greyhound drop of whippet/ collie she bring back but put rabbit down 5 yrds short, i do think me self with pure sight hounds , it dont come natural to them, some do but lots dont. most it just catch/kill . Quote Link to post
SportingWhippetdog 21 Posted February 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 14/02/2020 at 10:06, shaaark said: Like poxon above said, as soon as he makes a catch, quick whistle and walk away, and crouch down to get him in to you. If he stops on the way back to you, whistle and walk away again until he comes to you, praising him quietly while you take the rabbit off him. Might take a few sessions to get him out of his current behaviour. BUT, I've had four pure whippets, and only one would retrieve live to hand, the others being VERY hard mouthed lol. I think it's a whippet thing lol. Good luck with it Thanks so much 1 Quote Link to post
wilbur foxhound 480 Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) As poxon says as soon as she picks up the rabbit either whistle or call on her and run the opposite way carry on calling/whistling when she catches up with you take the rabbit off her if she don’t let it go tell her leave it then gently stand on her foot and slowly apply pressure until she lets it go,hope this helps,wf Edited February 16, 2020 by wilbur foxhound Quote Link to post
BobDown 786 Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Iv an old beddy whippet lurcher bitch that didn’t like giving up her catch, oddly she would retrieve as well then refuse to let go. she was worse when had hold of one of them big bunny’s I nearly lost my fingers a time or two trying to pry her mouth off it. Other than that a belting little bitch we had some great outings Quote Link to post
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