Bedlington greyhound

[poxon 5,731]

3 minutes ago, fred90 said:

all had good nose, beddy blood always has. but f1 nose has been better on every occasion for me. line bred usually made racier, quicker. on the downside the f1 all seem to have that stubborn streak. this bitch I have now is the best finder I have ever had and does what I bought her for but fxxck me she's a fxxxcking funny dog. 

We breed for good nose in ours none have had a bad nose to be fair thanks to the beddy blood an collie they all seem capable of finding there own gear but I think that is the disadvantage if people breed back to sight hound to many times in a continuous row it stuffs some of the Base blood by taking away to much the reasoning for the small drop of collie in my first gen on the grans side was to iron out the stubbornness as I already know f1s tend to be stubborn sods as a rule it worked for us the mating gelled they were really easy to train an none of that collie sulking the second gen that are similar bred have been harder to train in my opinion but there’s more beddy blood in there only a bit more from the sires side but they have turned out so far better build far stronger than an racer the first gen more typey an a bigger in size there attitude so far is they seem to be switched on a lot earlier than the gen I bred 

I think for any lurcher it goes without saying it’s all about what suits you an your needs fella I like the hybrid lurcher to lurcher but not to racey bred it’s got to be a trier of all type be it mooching,ferreting lamping an if the law ever gets change a taker of all 

my last f1 beddy/whippet she was stubborn as f**k.crap on the lamp though only 17tts so had to run twice as hard as a bigger dog but was a good Little busher loved ferreting but this type of dog no longer suits my needs I never took a litter out of her because it would of been pointless for my land an style of hunting but a nice little dog in her self I’d probably not have another though  

[poxon 5,731]

35 minutes ago, fred90 said:

all had good nose, beddy blood always has. but f1 nose has been better on every occasion for me. line bred usually made racier, quicker. on the downside the f1 all seem to have that stubborn streak. this bitch I have now is the best finder I have ever had and does what I bought her for but fxxck me she's a fxxxcking funny dog. 

If she’s the best you’ve had an best finder does it not make viable sense to find a stud with the same qualitys f1 or 3quarter bred to stamp a type bred for your personal needs 

[fred90 3,213]

2 minutes ago, poxon said:

 

my last f1 beddy/whippet she was stubborn as f**k.crap on the lamp though only 17tts so had to run twice as hard as a bigger dog but was a good Little busher loved ferreting but this type of dog no longer suits my needs I never took a litter out of her because it would of been pointless for my land an style of hunting but a nice little dog in her self I’d probably not have another though  

I get where your coming from but when you become a old fart like me mooching about with a jill inside jacket and half a dozen nets you just might change your mind. 

[fred90 3,213]

2 minutes ago, poxon said:

If she’s the best you’ve had an best finder does it not make viable sense to find a stud with the same qualitys f1 or 3quarter bred to stamp a type bred for your personal needs 

I am looking to go back to whippet to breed a three quarter pup for myself. it will be my only litter I would think. I have had lurchers over 30 years but always bought in from people i usually know. 

[morton 5,368]

49 minutes ago, Blackmag said:

I do marvel he works beddys above and below to what standard I don't know but he's passionate about them and there xs surely he would like to improve what's out there if he can amongst trusted folk who would test them  instead of saying how bad most are it was just thought 

Ive been approached by a few lurcher folk over the years wanting to put a Beddy over a Whippet or a greyhound,id not use my terriers for that purpose.I know of 2 litters that will be on the market in the near future,Beddy/Greys,both litters will command ridiculous dollar and id be loathe to be any part of a breeding for that reason.Id not produce a Beddy lurcher as i don,t want one,i know their worth in the field and it far outweighs the monetary value the majority of folk breed for now.Some may say that if decent uns,owned by decent folk don,t take the trouble to breed something of better quality for working purpose only,gifted to like minded souls,then the dollar brigade will take over the market.Im of the opinion that if you want something bad enough then do the leg work and don,t rely on others,you know what your breeding then,its a long hard slog but worth the effort and if more took the effort the prostitute breeders would crawl into the undergrowth.

[nothernlite 18,080]

My we bitch is just going into labour i hope and have 6 cracking homes working homes to go to.one for myself and if she has enough they will be given away to good quality homes that are waiting to hear from me 

[morton 5,368]

1 minute ago, nothernlite said:

My we bitch is just going into labour i hope and have 6 cracking homes working homes to go to.one for myself and if she has enough they will be given away to good quality homes that are waiting to hear from me 

It takes an awful lot of time,effort and commitment,decades perhaps,to be in a position to breed something right for all the right reasons.Well done sir.

[morton 5,368]

19 hours ago, two crows said:

a fact is if something is rely good enough at the job it will be kept going, whether  its a dog a cow pig horse or chicken, working dogs get dropped by seriouse dog workers when something better at the job comes along,  if you want to do the job properly  that is.

There are several different breeds of dogs,pigs,horses and chickens and owners that prefer something specific to themselves,especially serious owners,if i wanted a lap dog id not buy a Great Dane,if i wanted a race horse id not buy a Shire,both dogs and both horses yet totally different animals.

[iworkwhippets 12,539]

20 minutes ago, nothernlite said:

My we bitch is just going into labour i hope and have 6 cracking homes working homes to go to.one for myself and if she has enough they will be given away to good quality homes that are waiting to hear from me 

All the best Dave

[northern lad 2,292]

1 hour ago, nothernlite said:

My we bitch is just going into labour i hope and have 6 cracking homes working homes to go to.one for myself and if she has enough they will be given away to good quality homes that are waiting to hear from me 

Good luck Davie...hope you get what you're after....

[shaaark 10,745]

3 hours ago, fred90 said:

I am looking to go back to whippet to breed a three quarter pup for myself. it will be my only litter I would think. I have had lurchers over 30 years but always bought in from people i usually know. 

Go for it mate. What I've read of your posts, a 3/4 whippet 1/4 beddy be spot on. Plus you've the added bonus of knowing 'exactly' how they're bred

[Trev70 5,185]

12 hours ago, nothernlite said:

My we bitch is just going into labour i hope and have 6 cracking homes working homes to go to.one for myself and if she has enough they will be given away to good quality homes that are waiting to hear from me 

Hope it all goes well mate  atb.

[iworkwhippets 12,539]

theres a bloke called Trev on board this forum Dave, ive made him a good offer fer one of his pups and the buggers dumped me, lol    now then look here, you've dropped a bollock wi that mating, nobody will give them pups a look in, so same offer goes to you, slip us £100 and a bag of food, plus jabs, and im your man, eh, hello, am I the man or no, closure midnight tonight

[two crows 3,342]

12 hours ago, morton said:

There are several different breeds of dogs,pigs,horses and chickens and owners that prefer something specific to themselves,especially serious owners,if i wanted a lap dog id not buy a Great Dane,if i wanted a race horse id not buy a Shire,both dogs and both horses yet totally different animals.

that's the point, why keep one type  of  earth dog when there is a better one, if that's the job your interested  in, the men that created all our wonderful old breeds of livestock knew their stuff, but as people started to move about  more, things changed, and breeds from other areas and even other countries started to have an impact, and  all have been shown by proud owners, and worked at the same time,, the show men have ruined some dog breeds that's for sure, but lots of breeds like cocker spaniels for example have split into two distinct types, and survived as workers, despite being popular show dogs. as for lurchers many types have gone by the wayside because their pasturel ancestor disappearing in favour of something better.

[two crows 3,342]

13 hours ago, morton said:

There are several different breeds of dogs,pigs,horses and chickens and owners that prefer something specific to themselves,especially serious owners,if i wanted a lap dog id not buy a Great Dane,if i wanted a race horse id not buy a Shire,both dogs and both horses yet totally different animals.

that's the point, why keep one type  of  earth dog when there is a better one, if that's the job your interested  in, the men that created all our wonderful old breeds of livestock knew their stuff, but as people started to move about  more, things changed, and breeds from other areas and even other countries started to have an impact, and  all have been shown by proud owners, and worked at the same time,, the show men have ruined some dog breeds that's for sure, but lots of breeds like cocker spaniels for example have split into two distinct types, and survived as workers, despite being popular show dogs. as for lurchers many types have gone by the wayside because their pasturel ancestor disappearing in favour of something better.