dave j p 30 Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Yes Moocher Like you I wouldn't want an adult dog ,even though I might feel sorry for them you just don't know what you are getting the only exception would be if I knew the dog well already like if it was a relations or friends . Other than being dragged to prison kicking and screaming there is know way I would ever let a dog go, good or bad . Luckily though I never had a world beater I never had a bad dog so far touch wood. If your mate has a male pup going in the near future I would be interested, roughly what part of the world is your mate in north ,south ,England ,Scotland or Wales ? Quote Link to post
TonyOrmy 128 Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 35 years ago I had seen and been out glamping with this cross and all 3 plus 1 which I owned till some dirt pinched her were all decent animals although from total different parents and ages they all seemed so true to type and could put proper shifts and so my experience with them I never seen a bad one very easy to bring on and up for anything that moved in the beam 1 Quote Link to post
Marvel 469 Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Loton Moocher said: would you ever breed from her LM? Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 On 13/04/2020 at 21:11, low plains drifter said: If you look back to the early saluki based coursing lurchers, they are said to have carried beddy blood, the woolly coat still comes through in some of today's dogs The wooly coat is more likely to be attributed to the Saluki,i cannot see what Beddy in the mix would offer to a coursing type. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 On 11/04/2020 at 10:46, Moocher71 said: Always here digging stuff ? Bedlington terriers never bred for small earth work like in shires as they to big to get to fox never mind bolt him ?they bred for rock piles and large places like badger sets and this is were a good bedlington come into there own ,we don't work brock no more in uk but if it made legal the bedlington would be used a lot more to ground like in some parts of Europe were they work brock ,pigs ,raccoon dog and deer and fox . Thats possibly the most inaccurate post ive read on here,if you do not know about something don,t go to the trouble of making a cock out of yourself mucker.The Bedlington was bred in FOX country to work the fecking things,if it went in rocks its was worked accordingly,if it ventured into an old rabbit warren it was worked accordingly and any other haunt the fox sought refuge the terrier was expected to work.The Bedlington was not fecking bred in the shires,they had their own type terriers to work that part of the country.The Bedlington gained its niche amongst Lakelands,Fells and Borders,plus a few more we will never hear of again,the Beddy lost its way because of the KC brigade and the dirty mercenary dollar chasers.Its still heavily polluted by such and fools that know far more about the terrier than they actually know. 2 Quote Link to post
moonlighter 1,164 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, morton said: Thats possibly the most inaccurate post ive read on here,if you do not know about something don,t go to the trouble of making a cock out of yourself mucker.The Bedlington was bred in FOX country to work the fecking things,if it went in rocks its was worked accordingly,if it ventured into an old rabbit warren it was worked accordingly and any other haunt the fox sought refuge the terrier was expected to work.The Bedlington was not fecking bred in the shires,they had their own type terriers to work that part of the country.The Bedlington gained its niche amongst Lakelands,Fells and Borders,plus a few more we will never hear of again,the Beddy lost its way because of the KC brigade and the dirty mercenary dollar chasers.Its still heavily polluted by such and fools that know far more about the terrier than they actually know. The KC had nothing to do with the Beddy not been used? If that’s the case, you could say the same about spaniels, labs, greyhounds, border collies. All of which excel at what there bred for. All off which have show stock in crufts. It’s the supposed working dog men breeding with show stock that’s ruined it. You wouldn’t get someone who likes showing beddy’s in crufts picking some scruffy fox hunting dog to breed with. Yet some terrier men will use a non tested dog to breed from. That’s there fault, not the KC brigade. 2 Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,603 Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 18/04/2020 at 18:27, morton said: The wooly coat is more likely to be attributed to the Saluki,i cannot see what Beddy in the mix would offer to a coursing type. The coat type comes through in saluki lurchers, never seen it in saluki x greyhounds/ whippets etc , I would imagine way back when the first of the saluki blooded types came on the scene it would have been a case of lads crossing them with the lurchers that were around at the time rather than having plans to create what in some cases would become the best hare catching dogs around 2 Quote Link to post
two crows 3,342 Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) the bigger bitch is bedy lurcher x saluki, the pup is her to a whippet 1974 ish, I line bred them for almost 20 years all hare killers,and never bred one that was not smooth, the bitch in the first pic came down from her years later from a Leicester man. cocker bred some courser x beddygrey in recent years, I may well do the same. Edited April 20, 2020 by two crows 8 Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,619 Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 No way would terrier men turn the Bedlington into something that looks like a lamb.! Quote Link to post
poxon 5,741 Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, forest of dean redneck said: No way would terrier men turn the Bedlington into something that looks like a lamb.! They have by not using them without them knowing it’s happened with kc It’s simple a dog that’s incapable of producing dogs that do the job will be dropped for dogs doing the job an producing the goods the problem with work bred bedlingtons is people chasing names in pedigrees an money there never going to produce worker after work or establish decent type because there so cut up on names an cash rather than if it’s actually worth breeding from there priorities lay in the wrong places Quote Link to post
Loton Moocher 1,254 Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Like a fox a beddy should be able to sqeeze into the tightest places ? 2 Quote Link to post
poxon 5,741 Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Loton Moocher said: Like a fox a beddy should be able to sqeeze into the tightest places ? Should but when beddys range from 14tts up to 20tts there’s not going to be many getting to ground Quote Link to post
Loton Moocher 1,254 Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, poxon said: Should but when beddys range from 14tts up to 20tts there’s not going to be many getting to ground More like there aint many putting them to ground ? 4 Quote Link to post
Black neck 16,009 Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 5 hours ago, two crows said: the bigger bitch is bedy lurcher x saluki, the pup is her to a whippet 1974 ish, I line bred them for almost 20 years all hare killers,and never bred one that was not smooth, the bitch in the first pic came down from her years later from a Leicester man. cocker bred some courser x beddygrey in recent years, I may well do the same. Quote Link to post
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