Terrier work in the USA - Photos and Stories.

[Aussie Whip 4,091]

I've had my little whippet/stag take on boars a Bengal tiger would have to think about,I'd call that game, not dumb, because she's still alive.

[jetro 5,349]

1 hour ago, Glyn..... said:

apbt and a working terrier completely different animals , one is surrounded by men , held back or egged on , rested treated, in a safe environment, could even have the towel thrown in for it , Brains not needed ...the other is on it's own pure drive, in the dark lack of air , tight even the hard earth can take its toll on their body , although help is on it's way it could take hours , no little ring to walk across more like a 3D puzzle with its prize on the move ,it may be facing something way out of its weight range more aggressive more suited to that environment ....there is only one game dog and it has f**k all to do with fighting it has more to do with brains and heart .....as such I see no reason to cross them if it was done leave it  there in the past 

Very well put.

Atb j 

[Rickshaw swami 4,119]

1 hour ago, Glyn..... said:

apbt and a working terrier completely different animals , one is surrounded by men , held back or egged on , rested treated, in a safe environment, could even have the towel thrown in for it , Brains not needed ...the other is on it's own pure drive, in the dark lack of air , tight even the hard earth can take its toll on their body , although help is on it's way it could take hours , no little ring to walk across more like a 3D puzzle with its prize on the move ,it may be facing something way out of its weight range more aggressive more suited to that environment ....there is only one game dog and it has f**k all to do with fighting it has more to do with brains and heart .....as such I see no reason to cross them if it was done leave it  there in the past 

Mr Glyn 

Your a great orator and artist.Youre the man who needs to be writing terrier books instead of Frain.

[Mean Jolene 1]

Im new to the board and want to say Hi to all on the board.  Hello swami, I been reading your post on hunting the otter and the beavers. My husband and I are trappers and been trapping for quit some time now and I'm really interested In hering and possibly seeing picks of your dog's actually working the otter and beaver in there sets. Amd how many dog's have you lost due to this type of hunting? I would assume almost all? The reason I ask is because the beaver picks you have posted could easily destroy a little dog and push them into there dam to were they will never come out or easy drown them. The otter being smaller is still a tough creature and doesn't work alone. And a couple of them in the water could easily drown them also.  You must have some pretty hard and smart dog's that can hold there breath for along time to accomplish this. Do you have any picks of them in the set actually working these creatures?  And how many have you lost to them? Meaning how many have been drowned and never found? Has to be alot knowing how they are and how they use there dam besides backing up water.  Would love to come see your dog's working on them, they half to be really machine's. 

[dogmandont 9,802]

8 hours ago, Hatch28 said:

I never said they were no good I  said their not truly game not in comparison to hard terrier or old type working  staff. 

Garbage

[eastcoast 4,110]

“ a working terrier is the only animal that will continually seek out environments and situations that it knows from past experience are in conducive to its own survival “ ...well some will. From some book I read years ago on foxes by an animal behavioural psychologist. Just one man’s opinion of course.

[fireman 10,867]

58 minutes ago, Mean Jolene said:

Im new to the board and want to say Hi to all on the board.  Hello swami, I been reading your post on hunting the otter and the beavers. My husband and I are trappers and been trapping for quit some time now and I'm really interested In hering and possibly seeing picks of your dog's actually working the otter and beaver in there sets. Amd how many dog's have you lost due to this type of hunting? I would assume almost all? The reason I ask is because the beaver picks you have posted could easily destroy a little dog and push them into there dam to were they will never come out or easy drown them. The otter being smaller is still a tough creature and doesn't work alone. And a couple of them in the water could easily drown them also.  You must have some pretty hard and smart dog's that can hold there breath for along time to accomplish this. Do you have any picks of them in the set actually working these creatures?  And how many have you lost to them? Meaning how many have been drowned and never found? Has to be alot knowing how they are and how they use there dam besides backing up water.  Would love to come see your dog's working on them, they half to be really machine's. 

It's not or never has been about how hard a terrier is,it's about how it works it's quarry and just because you don't believe it don't mean it don't happen,the otter was hunted for many years this side of the pond and folk didn't loose terriers to often while doing it...

[Daniel cain 45,069]

45 minutes ago, eastcoast said:

“ a working terrier is the only animal that will continually seek out environments and situations that it knows from past experience are in conducive to its own survival “ ...well some will. From some book I read years ago on foxes by an animal behavioural psychologist. Just one man’s opinion of course.

Ian macdonald? 

[Black neck 15,863]

33 minutes ago, fireman said:

It's not or never has been about how hard a terrier is,it's about how it works it's quarry and just because you don't believe it don't mean it don't happen,the otter was hunted for many years this side of the pond and folk didn't loose terriers to often while doing it...

Sounds like most that were lost  were in accidents wi hounds ,only read about mind as I'm not well old

[eastcoast 4,110]

14 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

Ian macdonald? 

I can’t remember Daniel cain Can’t find the book so assume it’s another one I lent out and never got back. But that statement is something that rang true and I have always remembered. My quote may not be 100% correct but it was more or less correct.

Edited March 4, 2020 by eastcoast

[Daniel cain 45,069]

Read it before somewhere.... Thought it may of been from 'running with the fox'

[dillydog 8,462]

2 hours ago, Mean Jolene said:

Im new to the board and want to say Hi to all on the board.  Hello swami, I been reading your post on hunting the otter and the beavers. My husband and I are trappers and been trapping for quit some time now and I'm really interested In hering and possibly seeing picks of your dog's actually working the otter and beaver in there sets. Amd how many dog's have you lost due to this type of hunting? I would assume almost all? The reason I ask is because the beaver picks you have posted could easily destroy a little dog and push them into there dam to were they will never come out or easy drown them. The otter being smaller is still a tough creature and doesn't work alone. And a couple of them in the water could easily drown them also.  You must have some pretty hard and smart dog's that can hold there breath for along time to accomplish this. Do you have any picks of them in the set actually working these creatures?  And how many have you lost to them? Meaning how many have been drowned and never found? Has to be alot knowing how they are and how they use there dam besides backing up water.  Would love to come see your dog's working on them, they half to be really machine's. 

Don't rise to the bait,  stinks of anti BS

[Daniel cain 45,069]

Hope not.... Turned into a decent thread with some interesting opinions 

[Rickshaw swami 4,119]

On 26/01/2020 at 06:17, Rickshaw swami said:

Our rivers are controlled by dams.They lower the river level 5 feet in winter so most sets are surrounded by mud.But the river is always close by.

 

[Glyn..... 5,208]

5 hours ago, eastcoast said:

“ a working terrier is the only animal that will continually seek out environments and situations that it knows from past experience are in conducive to its own survival “ ...well some will. From some book I read years ago on foxes by an animal behavioural psychologist. Just one man’s opinion of course.

running with the fox by Dr David McDonald,  he went out with terrier men who caught his first foxes for tracking in the lakes 

Edited March 4, 2020 by Glyn.....