Rickshaw swami 4,119 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 American pitbull was a byproduct of the Great Famine in Ireland.They brought them here to America.Not trying to argue just wanted to state the fact. 3 1 Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,697 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Cause they were . Cause they had all the time and ability in coffin ships to maintain a well bred fighting dog on the ships and in abject poverty upon arrival and for the time prior to emigrating . Peddle your fiction elsewhere 1 Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,697 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, BrandonDGPT said: You took our american Pittbull culls, and made every working breed you have over there better, then deny it and call us fools lol, no need to insult people as if you no every person, gets old man nothing but insults from alot of you fellas, when we have the upmost respect for those who put in the time amd work making these terriers There were very good working terriers in the north of England long before the far modern import of the apbt keep believing what you want though 2 Quote Link to post
fireman 10,867 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Cause they were . Cause they had all the time and ability in coffin ships to maintain a well bred fighting dog on the ships and in abject poverty upon arrival and for the time prior to emigrating . Peddle your fiction elsewhere They didn't breed the apbt from wolves though Stiff..... 3 Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,697 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, fireman said: They didn't breed the apbt from wolves though Stiff..... No they didn’t but the bull terrier arrived there through trade and the opening of the west , not the famine diaspora . 2 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,862 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: No they didn’t but the bull terrier arrived there through trade and the opening of the west , not the famine diaspora . How do u know these things Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 I don't know anyone stupid enough to breed a APBT into a decent working terrier, wtf would they bring to the table ? 1 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,862 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, dillydog said: I don't know anyone stupid enough to breed a APBT into a decent working terrier, wtf would they bring to the table ? Nose 1 Quote Link to post
Rickshaw swami 4,119 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, dillydog said: I don't know anyone stupid enough to breed a APBT into a decent working terrier, wtf would they bring to the table ? It's usually added in America because some British terrierman said they look like whippets. 31 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: No they didn’t but the bull terrier arrived there through trade and the opening of the west , not the famine diaspora . Do some research first off in the west they was still getting scalped by Indians then they ate the dogs, When you research as far back as you can it will mostly be in New England.Which is the Eastern coast.Boston area has alot of info.Which coincidentally has the highest Irish population. 3 Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,697 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 You mean Boston as in after Boston lincs in England ? or New York As In after York , Yorkshire , England ? the east coast was full of English immigrants also before the potato famine , do you not think that well to do English people would not have taken over bull and terrier types as they settled in comfort rather than this romantic notion you have of penniless John paul mcguigan Landing In Charlestown harbour fresh from the horrors of famine with nothing else other than GR champ Donegal Tyson for company ? Behave 1 Quote Link to post
Rickshaw swami 4,119 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 You are partially right Stiff.The rich English already here traveled and bought Irish dogs. 2 Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 54 minutes ago, dillydog said: I don't know anyone stupid enough to breed a APBT into a decent working terrier, wtf would they bring to the table ? Trouble, over sized, over hyped,over rated, trouble 1 Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,697 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Not having it all . The famine was an absolute holocaust. The idea that somehow bull types would have travelled to the new world in coffin ships is quaint but laughable. They would have been eaten. People couldn’t feed their kids and were eating rats and cats in Ireland before the mass exodus , not only to America but to mainland uk predominantly the west coast of Scotland and northern England . All the while prosperous settlers from the highly industrialised midlands ,South Wales London and agricultural areas of the uk moved en mass to America throughout this period. Who do you seriously think carried the forebears of the apbt? Can’t possibly have been huge swathes of Black Country residents or the cockney gentlemen? I mean it’s not like they had dogs that resembled early bull terriers is it? Oh , Hang on a minute .... Quote Link to post
Rickshaw swami 4,119 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 I will humbly bow out as you obviously know more of my country than I. 1 Quote Link to post
goldfinch2007 2,332 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 26/01/2020 at 12:17, Rickshaw swami said: The river bottoms I hunt are public hunting land.Its mostly used by duck hunters and coonhound men.Its hard to get private land permission as rich men pay big money to deer hunt.Our rivers are controlled by dams.They lower the river level 5 feet in winter so most sets are surrounded by mud.But the river is always close by.With a $20 hunting license I have access to over a 1000 miles of river bank.When the river is low I can use Google Earth to find good spots. Wish I could give £20 for 1000 miles lucky man 1 Quote Link to post
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