Hunting .with the 177 cal.

[mark williams 7,563]

Not in any way a caliber question lads but rather a pellet weight question.

              I`ve shot exclusively with the light weight JSB Exact Express 4.52, 7.87 g pellets for nearly 4 years now and can't see me changing much after the successful trips I,ve had.

             My question is - do any of you lads hunt with the JSB Heavies  10.34 g in .177 cal ?

             I was watching a Vermin Hunters t.v. video recently and I was very impressed with the wallop/ tissue damage these particular pellets gave from sub/12 rifles at a shorter 25/ 30 yds on squirrel.

             

[villaman 9,982]

As you know Mark I have used AA express for some years now and can’t see me changing pellet in my Hw100kt . 
 I do use JSB heavies 10.3 gr pellet in my BSA ultra only because of the mags don’t like AA express , shame really because the gun is fantastic with AA express , but it works with the heavies just as good 

I watched the same vid but you put any pellet that suits your barrel in the right place = dead weather it light or heavy              
some think just because it heavy it’s going to kill better but I am afraid they are deluded 

 

 

[villaman 9,982]

By the way I shot 33 squirrels last Saturday and Sunday with HW 100k using AA express 7.9 gr from 20- 55 yards , all fell dead straight of  ,

proof is in the pudding , don’t you think 

[villaman 9,982]

Be interesting when the 10gr  .177 slug comes out soon  , I will give them ago that’s for sure 

[mark williams 7,563]

Yep, with you there Mitch light or heavy weight pellet placed correctly  but the damage got my attention mate from a standard sub 12.

            A 10.34 g won't get my attention trajectory wise but the damage caused really caught my eye and mind.

 

                                         Just thought I`d put it out there lads. 

[villaman 9,982]

This is the damage with AA express 

no better or no worse than heavy pellet 

 

[mark williams 7,563]

Not the damage I`ve been watching Mitch, by any means. Correct shot placement is fine but again, any of you lads hunting with the JSB Heavies 10.34 g please and your thoughts  sub 12 ?

[villaman 9,982]

Sorry mark I don’t quite know what you are on about  tissue damage , if that’s not tissue damage in those pic I don’t know what is 

[villaman 9,982]

Just watched it again mark and no different to the damage from AA express and with the same side head shot 

yes the heavies are a great pellet and I use them on rabbits from my ultra , but once again it doesn’t kill any better than express  in my HW100K.   Heavy pellet is still going to wound a animal  if shot placement is not spot on

What ever suits your barrel and shot placement does the damage and not the weight 

[Rez 4,961]

Not using heavies as such, as in the shape but I’ve not moved from bizzy mags in my 100. There a touch heavier than the JSB @ 10.6... Thoughts... yeah, really good. Touch more drop course but to be expected.

Is it the weight side of things your on about Marko or the BC/shape of the heavies?

From what I gather, your little combo already does a fine job.

[villaman 9,982]

Mark is talking about tissue damage 

[Rez 4,961]

Just now, villaman said:

Mark is talking about tissue damage 

I see. Best get some clay blocks init and do some testing  From the images you and marko do post, the tissue is well and truly damaged... even with the lighter pellet.  

[barrywhite 282]

light weight 177 pellets are best in 12 ft lbs guns you get you pellet speed near 800 ft per second flat fasts more like a fire arm  , In my life time shooting I once killed two rabbits with one shot from a 97k the pellet went through one rabbit and killed the one next to it that I did not see . If can get a little bit more energy at the piont impact with a 177 the pellet will go through the rabbit better ect and if you are trying to shoot at a longer range with a heavy pellet you have to start lobbing shots more . tissue damage I would think will come from a distorted pellet a soft light pellet will do that fine

 

Edited January 12, 2020 by barrywhite

[villaman 9,982]

Yep, 7.9 @  805 , 10.3 @ 710 

[mark williams 7,563]

Hmmmm , I certainly agree with all that's been said, maybe I`m listening to Si Pitterway and Davy too much in that video ?

                    Si Pitterway states that he's never seen a pellet do so much damage as a JSB Heavy at sub 12 level, .177 cal, that's why I asked the question is anyone using these pellets for hunting and your thoughts please.

                    Could anyone be kind enough to put the video link up please ?

 

                     Thank you.