Miss

[king 11,972]

1 minute ago, robertb123 said:

Modern day classic!

look at the glasses on bubs 

[king 11,972]

8 minutes ago, Penda said:

Chick with a dick 

 

[ollieollie 766]

Why’s the thread called miss? 

[shaaark 10,742]

4 hours ago, HannahBear said:

Hi guys 

So I've got a lurcher, loki (lives up to his name) lovely boy gentle nature. Softie and is so gentle with other animals great with rats kittens the lot I just cannot fault him. 

Loki is 3 years old this April 6th.

So when I got loki he was a pup, 8 weeks. He was socialised with young and adult dogs from a young age and gradually left for short to longer periods of times with toys and other entertainment ext. All done properly. 

Also when left as a young pup he was at work with me in a crated area in plain site of other dogs too so he wasn't on his own as such. He was always quite unsettled however even with food and toys he just wanted to be with me. 

He would be left for 20 to 30 to an hour and so on gradually. I worked at a vet practice and every one kept their dogs there. The dogs were all walked twice a day on our breaks and it was all a dog friendly happy environment he was just always wanting to be with me however which is what may make sense with what I describe later on in this statement. 

As he got older walks would be around 2 hours or so along side my chihuahua haha both love long walks in the wilderness (Hampshire woodlands and open fields ext) 

Loki was slightly involved in some starter racing when he was 1 and 1/2 years and entered some showing. I kept him in tact because of the showing and racing and was advised that it was best to but I wasn't one to not have it done if it should have been. 

Anyway trying to cut this as short at possible.. 

So I had to leave work due to personal reasons and change jobs which meant loki having to be left at home and our routine changed. He began to soil and wee in his crate which I'm positive was due to anxiety as he wasnt left more than two hours in it (a friend would come by the house and let him out) and I myself would come home on my lunch break and let the dogs out. I can only assume that his anxiety of me leaving the house and him crated without other dogs in site may have caused anxiety and in tern messing in his cage. 

I made a decision to try him out of the crate just because of him being in his wee and poo and restrict him to a room or the house and then came the mess, the damage and the continous soiling and wetting around the house. 

This dog has cost me alot of money and repairs. I'm at my witts end even though I love him to pieces.

Ive looked into training but to be honest i stupidly thought maybe i could read up on it and fix it myself but I ended up suffering illness for a long time which lost me another job and has been a bar on my own active life which has made me feel so guilty. 

 

His recalls have always been a hard one just because of his breed he's so high wired too. 

If he sees another dog he is so so interested, lunges launches and dives and off lead he just runs and runs and runs and will wrestle dogs not hurt or bite them but play roughly _ I'm thinking maybe his hormones have increased, less active walks. 

 

The destruction in the house I think is anxiety as he won't do it if I'm home or someone else is as soon as we pop out from 20 mins up to couple of hours the house is ruined. 

 

As I said he's a lovely boy and it's not entirely his fault to be honest it's probably more mine. Maybe I've done something wrong on the journey and missed something. 

 

I don't want to rehome him or get rid of him because he really is my dog and I love him and want the best for him and I am ready to pay for the training or take on tips ext. 

 

I haven't written this for any criticism just positive criticism and help if at all possible. 

 

So despite the facts and story I'll just highlight the problems below and if anyone knows anyone whose a good trainer, books, videos or just any tips I am 100% willing a commited to putting it right! 

So if we base it around the following, 

*soiling and wetting the house over night or when left (on occasion) 

*not so good with recall

*highly destracted 

*destructive and will cause damage if not with him 

*will raid the bins 

*on walks will wrestle and play roughly with other dogs if off lesd and will bark lunge and dive on the lead if he sees them. 

*won't listen well on walks as he's so interested on the dogs and everything else. 

*anxious at times 

*fully in tact 

 

Thanks guys 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, HannahBear said:

Has never been treated as a baby and u feel that's one of the reasons I've gone wrong. As I said I feel ive given him anxiety by not baby-ING him. 

 

He can come off the lead and used to on our long long walks.. Woodlands fields marshes.. He's a Hardy dog no fancy coats no cotton wall cuddles.. 

 

The other dog gets crated too normally she was in with him or in her own little cage opposite ext.. 

 

 

4 hours ago, Saltmoon said:

Seems you've made the problem yourself having the dog with you 24/7 for such a long time it's not used to being alone ever and probably never will be now have you tried working the dog as that is what his mind wants to do his nature is to chase things ie rabbits! Have you tried leaving him with a decent bone while you've left not a shop bought crap one but from the butchers a cows thigh bone ect dogs love them will keep them entertained for hours 

Not being horrible or anything hannahBear, but I'm afraid my salty friend is correct. Maybe take on board some constructive criticism, try a few ideas some of the guys have given on here. I suspect it'll be a bit of an uphill struggle to begin with, but you'll get nowhere without trying some of these ideas. 

Not trying to aggravate you. Good luck

[robertb123 372]

13 minutes ago, king said:

look at the glasses on bubs 

All the better to see through the shitstorm!!! he's a rock God!!!

 

[shaaark 10,742]

There's a guy on here, 'casso', he's into dog behaviour, alternative training methods etc. Maybe give him a shout

[king 11,972]

10 minutes ago, robertb123 said:

All the better to see through the shitstorm!!! he's a rock God!!!

 

imagine a night on the piss with bubs.ffs lol

[Black neck 15,900]

23 minutes ago, shaaark said:

 

 

Not being horrible or anything hannahBear, but I'm afraid my salty friend is correct. Maybe take on board some constructive criticism, try a few ideas some of the guys have given on here. I suspect it'll be a bit of an uphill struggle to begin with, but you'll get nowhere without trying some of these ideas. 

Not trying to aggravate you. Good luck

What a horrible aggravating man

[Allan P 1,150]

The dog is bored, it needs to get rid of it’s pent up energy. Can you run with him or run him next to a bike. He needs some sort of activity to chill him out.  A tired dog is a well behaved dog.  

[blackmaggie 3,376]

hannhan  just get get shut flower you arent doing you or the dog justice its bored and you cant put the graft or simution in front of it to keep it happy maybe get a chihuahua  that might suit you better  love but a runnner not for you im afraid 

[robertb123 372]

35 minutes ago, king said:

imagine a night on the piss with bubs.ffs lol

Have to go to Lahey's for the liquor!

 

[Candle 27]

8 hours ago, Allan P said:

The dog is bored, it needs to get rid of it’s pent up energy. Can you run with him or run him next to a bike. He needs some sort of activity to chill him out.  A tired dog is a well behaved dog.  

Hannahbear the above post is the answer to all your problems.

[bunnyboiler 1,053]

What about a doggy nappy  

[Casso 1,261]

For a start ,  don’t f**k about with the dog in the house, every environment leaves a dog with an energetic feed back of how he felt the last time he was there, 

dogs don’t think this shit out, they go back into the same head space , the same energetic mind set it was in the last time there ,mother nature’s shortcut , so if the house was a f***ing play zone as a pup  , the script is already typed, I’m not saying you caused it  the point I’m making is , inside calm outside play , you don’t want to want to be  stimulating a pup/dog in the home because your creating a physical history of how it should act , if ya get me 

leaving a dog crated with no form of physical movement under stimulation is a sure fire method of f***ing  up the whole idea of a crate , it’s  always the movement that’s the cure, dogs HAVE to move their bodies in certain ways , call it rituals , rituals defuse tension in the dog , social dogs meet and greet , go through a ritual of sniffing and pissing and it’s all good 

I’m not against crates but in quiet out of the way places where any stimulation can’t overload the system , 

get some item the dog wants the bite , get him on a long line in a quiet area and start interacting with the item to such an extend that the f****r is driven nuts , let him tug the item out of your hands, he must win every time*thats important , he must achieve a feeling of success in your space, the same space he normally avoids while out 

so let him win , he’ll f**k off with it but you got one end of along line 20/30 metres, you can buy camping line in Aldi Lidl cheap out a D clasp on the end , you'll have a line for f**k all , anyway get him doing a circle around you with the item in him mouth , dogs do everything in a circle but you become the midpoint , he’s not running away he’s orbiting you , and that makes you part of the good feeling he’s getting ,

don’t bother with other dogs or any of that socialising crap,  your only encouraging him to leak energy that from now on need focusing on you , 

hand feed , f**k the Bowl away and make him earn every scrap , teach him the down, feed a lot in the down even out , the down trains a dog what to do with its body instead of trying its normal shit of breaking the place up , 
he’s more likely to do an action

you need to show the f****r there is an alternative to expressing itself in the way it does , but you got to show it , 

A DOG CANT JUST DO NOTHING , training is just putting a different body action to the same feeling , dogs don’t understand mess , it shits and pees to release pressure,  

inside calm outside play , the outside work plays into the behaviour at home but you can’t have one without the other , it’s the contrast that seals it in a dogs mind , the dog can contrast and learn of the where to physically express themselves , that’s the key 

change doesn’t happen overnight , best of luck 

[shaaark 10,742]

13 hours ago, Black neck said:

What a horrible aggravating man

I cana help mesen blackie