penicillin

[fat man 4,741]

5 hours ago, downsouth said:

Having a head like a football doesnt mean that an infection has set in.Swelling can occur in any wound wether infection has set in or not,Treating with metacam or a similar anti inflammatory will normallyhelp with this and help keep the dog comfortable. An infection in an open wound takes 2/3 days to set in.In that first 24/36hrs your time is better spent making sure the dog is fully rehydrated (just making sure its had a drink isn't enough if its had a grueler)rather than chucking a load of antibiotics in and giving its kidnys something else to try and deal with.Why chuck a lad of stuff in to try and beat an infection that might not even be there?

Everyone has their own ideas about how to do things, you have your way I have mine, I find if they take a bit and need treatment then I jab along with a good clean up, a lot depends on the way the dogs work aswell, some take more than others. The main thing is treat the dog as best you can when needed. 

[Mooching Celt 659]

Anyone else use dermisol cream? Swear but the stuff myself

[dogmandont 9,814]

1 hour ago, fat man said:

Everyone has their own ideas about how to do things, you have your way I have mine, I find if they take a bit and need treatment then I jab along with a good clean up, a lot depends on the way the dogs work aswell, some take more than others. The main thing is treat the dog as best you can when needed. 

Thats the thing really isn’t it, some terriers after a dig only need a good clean a feed and a warm bed whereas others you only have to look at them to know their going to need something more, also comes down to individual terriers and dogs in general I’ve had dogs never get an infection in their lives and others that only had to get a single tooth in them for the infection to set in. 

[dillydog 8,463]

Flamazine cream is the dogs danglies, Google it, very good but there's never a one size fits all treatment plan, if in doubt see your vet.

There's countless dogs suffering unnecessarily just because of our ridiculous laws, everything was pushed underground,  only the dogs suffered.  

Times have changed from when I first started, the old "salt water" crew are mostly dead and buried. Google will tell you the use of any generic drug, don't take people's words for it, educate yourself.  God knows how much the lazy doctors push antibiotics on people these days, it's not like they're hard to come by.

The best way forward is to find yourself someone who's been there and done that to give you an idea of how to go on but it's always best practice to get any dog to a vet. Even if it's a simple puncture from a fox bite, if you're treating it and it's all good then "get it on record" without that you won't have a leg to stand on in court.

[Rat face 1,655]

Spot on dilly,

[Runningdogs1998 10]

On 02/01/2020 at 21:38, stop.end said:

Nora clav tablets or synulox 100% because there tablet form... not only that but you have to administer  penicillin with a syringe.. and as far as im aware thats a complete NO NO... but id still have nora clav as first choice tablet.

 

On 02/01/2020 at 21:38, stop.end said:

Nora clav tablets or synulox 100% because there tablet form... not only that but you have to administer  penicillin with a syringe.. and as far as im aware thats a complete NO NO... but id still have nora clav as first choice tablet.

You can get synuloux injectable and penacillin tablet form... i

[rob284 1,682]

On 04/01/2020 at 17:11, downsouth said:

9 times out of 10 if a dogs is cleaned properly and given the correct aftercare there is no need to be giving any type of antibiotic.Seen too many lads reaching for the needle and probably doing more harm than good after a dogs put a hard shift in.

Here here, im proud to say I’ve never used or needed to use any penicillin or antibiotics on a dog as I’ve always thoroughly cleaned them after work. Seen many a lads dogs need it all because they don’t clean them like they should. I’d say it makes for a more resistant hardy dog in the long run, antibiotics kill the good bacteria also which over time isn’t good.

[dillydog 8,463]

You must both keep poodles

All power to you both, but there's injuries and then there's injuries, to say a bit of soap and water and aftercare will sort a working terrier out 90% of the time is delusional and just as dangerous as jabbing for the sake of jabbing.

Seek veterinary advice,  it's not cheap but it's cheaper than a court case,  it's cheaper than replacing your terrier and you owe it to the animal.

[fat man 4,741]

As I've said before, it all depends on the work style of the dog and the work or should I say amount of work it's given. The way my dogs work sometimes a good clean up is all it takes but then there is times when they need more and unless people keep out and out sounders that sit back off the quarry then at some stage there going to need treatment. 

[downsouth 7,248]

Like i said 9 times out of 10.If youre having to regularly use antibiotics on a dog either you're not cleaning the wounds thoroughly enough or the dog must have a weak immune system.Size of wounds shouldnt make a difference,Infections are caused by dirt or bacteria in the wound not the wound itself.clean wounds thoroughly and most times antibiotics aren't needed but if within a couple of days you see an infection starting then run a coarse of antibiotics.Too many lads start banging antibiotics in within an hour of getting a dog home,Ive even seen lads giving them whilst still out in the field.Why?to treat an infection that isnt even there when theres far more important aspects of a dogs wellbeing to be dealt with in the upcoming hours or even days to be dealt with before even worrying about giving antibiotics.

[dillydog 8,463]

Why would you let any infection take a foothold  ?

Surely it's better to save any infection from ever taking place ?

My vet once told me that even under surgical conditions flesh just sometimes wants to die back. I've beat myself up plenty enough times over the infections I've personally seen to know better mate, and that's with veterinary care.

Edited January 9, 2020 by dillydog

[downsouth 7,248]

42 minutes ago, dillydog said:

Why would you let any infection take a foothold  ?

Surely it's better to save any infection from ever taking place ?

My vet once told me that even under surgical conditions flesh just sometimes wants to die back. I've beat myself up plenty enough times over the infections I've personally seen to know better mate, and that's with veterinary care.

So would you treat a dog with a course of antibiotics every time it gets bitten just incase it might get an infection in a couple of days?If I had a dog that had done a really hard shift and took a fair bit of cosh id be spending the first 24/36 hours making sure the dog was fully rehydrated so its kidneys were fully functioning properly before I considered loading it up wit antibiotics and putting even more strain on the vital organs.I guarantee more dogs have died of shock(hypovolemic)in the first day or 2 than have died of an infection in the first week.

[Ace Boone coon 648]

I would say it would depends on the wounds. If it has a couple puncture wounds then of say you really don't have to. But it's always safe to. Now if your dog put in HARD WORK and got some deep wounds then yes give them a shot of penicillin and manybe a shot of azium. 1 shot of penicillin is not enough to do any harm to the dog's in anyway. Now if you were gonna repeatedly keep giving them the shot then yes it could hurt them. But in most cases usually 1 shot is good enough. Not enough to do damage to the kidney. Not even close unless your dogs kidney is bad to begin with. And just because you think you cleaned said wound doesn't necessarily mean you cleaned it good enough. It doesn't take very much to cause an Infection, so yeah better safe then sorry. 

[downsouth 7,248]

50 minutes ago, Ace Boone coon said:

I would say it would depends on the wounds. If it has a couple puncture wounds then of say you really don't have to. But it's always safe to. Now if your dog put in HARD WORK and got some deep wounds then yes give them a shot of penicillin and manybe a shot of azium. 1 shot of penicillin is not enough to do any harm to the dog's in anyway. Now if you were gonna repeatedly keep giving them the shot then yes it could hurt them. But in most cases usually 1 shot is good enough. Not enough to do damage to the kidney. Not even close unless your dogs kidney is bad to begin with. And just because you think you cleaned said wound doesn't necessarily mean you cleaned it good enough. It doesn't take very much to cause an Infection, so yeah better safe then sorry. 

If you're going to start using Dex(Azium)on a dog thats put in a long hard shift then you seriously need to start thinking about adding fluids via i.v as you will being drying out a dog even more that could already be seriously dehydrated.

[task 74]

Theres no hard and fast rule u should treat acording to injury if it is serious i always jab to prevent infection as well as clean and metacam do this as soon as dog has been dug obviously under vets guidance.but i prefer dog that has a bit of sense so does not need alot of treatment but even the sensible ones get knocked about depends on the animal infront of them