Johnathon Pie. Excellent.

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There is no such thing as a perfect government or a perfect politician, the conservatives have made mistakes of course during the last few years but to try to say they wanted to cut police or social care to feather the nests of the rich is frankly ridiculous. They took over when there was no money in the kitty and yes the debt has gone up but the deficit has gone down, all country’s run with debt because they all live beyond their means but when a government starts spending outrageously and the debts get out of hand then you have a problem. Under a labour government you ALWAYS end up with a problem. If you think other countries don’t have austerity think again have a look at Greece and Italy they have imf bailouts and things are 10 times worse than they were/are here. If you believe in working hard and getting the rewards for it then vote conservative if you want everything gifted you on plate then vote labour but beware there is no such thing as a free lunch. It will bite the whole country in the arse and then we will have super austerity and who will the morons that voted labour blame??? That’s right the conservative government that will by the be in power trying the sort the mess labour left for them!  

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2 hours ago, jukel123 said:

Wilf I think the tories conned the british public with austerity packages. No other country bore down on the poor and the disabled like the tories did, meanwhile the rich got a lot richer. In Iceland they imprisoned some of their bankers for their part in the crisis. We let our lot carry on taking the piss. British workers still haven't recovered the same living standards as they had before the banking crisis, no other country is in that state.

Corbyn I grant you is a bit of a wanker, but I think he is basically a decent man.  Politics isn't a case of black and white. I genuinly believe if you or me were suddenly elected to be prime minister we would  try our hardest to make people's lives better. I think Corbyn would too. Where's all the dirt on Corbyn? The best the tory press can come up with is that he sat down with terrorists. But we all know every political leader does deals with terrorists. Trump invited the taliban to the White House, the queen shook hands with the guys who used to lead the IRA ffs. It's diplomacy. Political power often comes out of the barrel of a gun.

You say every political leader deals with terrorists?? Yes with a gun! Corbyn was a far left backbench mp (considered to extreme for the main party) back then who had zero power and had no right whatsoever to be talking with the ira except that he wanted to. What about calling Abu hamsa our friends??? The anti Semitism scandal? None of this bother you? His voting record in parliament is literally a joke, he hates this country and wants to destroy capitalism so everyone is dependent on the state. With a weak economy there will be no investment in all the things you are angry about. Plus brexit will be gone and country plunged into a further years of arguing about it. 

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3 hours ago, WILF said:

Corbyn don’t give a f**k about the small man same as Johnson don’t.....none of the policy they advocate will effect either of them.

Honestly, mate, I reckon Corbyn is pretty genuine in that respect. I think he does genuinely care about the small man I just don't think his methods will work in the slightest. He wants to double down with policies that have repeatedly failed and will take Britain backwards not forwards. I think he's one of the few that believes he's in it for the greater good but he's all about making the government the sole guardian of everything. We know how great they are at solving problems!

Boris on the other hand wouldn't even understand the concept of walking in another man's shoes. He's got staff for that sort of commoner sh*t.

 

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10 minutes ago, ChrisJones said:

Honestly, mate, I reckon Corbyn is pretty genuine in that respect. I think he does genuinely care about the small man I just don't think his methods will work in the slightest. He wants to double down with policies that have repeatedly failed and will take Britain backwards not forwards. I think he's one of the few that believes he's in it for the greater good but he's all about making the government the sole guardian of everything. We know how great they are at solving problems!

Boris on the other hand wouldn't even understand the concept of walking in another man's shoes. He's got staff for that sort of commoner sh*t.

 

Welcome back wondered where you'd been. Don't always agree but welcome anyway.lol.

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Just now, jukel123 said:

Welcome back wondered where you'd been.

Thanks, mate!

My laptop had a stroke and I've been really busy at work. Just haven't had the time.

[Greyman 28,188]

None of them give a flying f**k about anything apart from lining there’s and there buddy’s pockets at our expense, but I would never trust a socialist living in a 3 million pound house as long as I got a hole in me arse, the only thing I care about is that the biggest democratic vote ever taken place in our history will be totally ignored by the other party’s so if boris is going to at least pretend to honour the vote he is the man for me as nothing else matters to me, when labour get back into power after 5 years of boris as will happen as sure as night follows day I will then sign on the dole and see myself into retirement , it’s all just a game, so learn how to play it 

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24 minutes ago, ChrisJones said:

Honestly, mate, I reckon Corbyn is pretty genuine in that respect. I think he does genuinely care about the small man I just don't think his methods will work in the slightest. He wants to double down with policies that have repeatedly failed and will take Britain backwards not forwards. I think he's one of the few that believes he's in it for the greater good but he's all about making the government the sole guardian of everything. We know how great they are at solving problems!

Boris on the other hand wouldn't even understand the concept of walking in another man's shoes. He's got staff for that sort of commoner sh*t.

 

You have a lot more faith than me in all these people mate ! Lol 

Good to see you back sir  

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1 minute ago, WILF said:

You have a lot more faith than me in all these people mate ! Lol

I wouldn't say I have faith in him I just believe that he believes he's in for the right reason. I certainly don't trust him but I think he's one of the few that will at least attempt to deliver his policies even though I believe those policies will be catastrophic as you know my thoughts on socialism. If he says he wants to help I believe he does whereas if the rest of them anything remotely similar I'd quietly laugh before switching the station. I reckon Tony Benn was the same. As honest as we'll get in politics at least on an individual basis.

If we're going into the method behind the madness then all bets are off!

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If Corbyn is genuine then I can only assume he is a raving loon......his chancellor wants to revert to a politburo style of running the economy.

And Diane Abbott is too deluded for words........her majority is about 35,000 !!......that means more than 35,000 voted for her !! WTF ???

Then there’s Boris and the new labour Conservative party ?

Basically.......we are f****d ! Lol 

 

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1 minute ago, ChrisJones said:

I wouldn't say I have faith in him I just believe that he believes he's in for the right reason. I certainly don't trust him but I think he's one of the few that will at least attempt to deliver his policies even though I believe those policies will be catastrophic as you know my thoughts on socialism. If he says he wants to help I believe he does whereas if the rest of them anything remotely similar I'd quietly laugh before switching the station. I reckon Tony Benn was the same. As honest as we'll get in politics at least on an individual basis.

If we're going into the method behind the madness then all bets are off!

He is in it for the right reasons......where else is a c**t like that going to have a 35 year career preaching that shit and end up a millionaire ! Lol  

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3 minutes ago, WILF said:

He is in it for the right reasons......where else is a c**t like that going to have a 35 year career preaching that shit and end up a millionaire ! Lol  

I can't dispute that, mate, I just think he's deluded enough to honestly believe that his way is the right way. He wants to fix public transport and uses public transport unlike those that want to fix public education yet use private schools. Or fix the NHS whilst utilizing taxpayer provided private healthcare. He does have a warped sense of integrity and I reckon he honestly believe the guff he comes out with. He thinks he's part of the solution but any student of history can see that his solution throws back to the causation of many, many, problems. Something his large fan base won't research.

I've been out of there 12 years and counting. I don't even register on a radar that would generate support in the UK so the outcome for me is purely entertainment at this point. The solutions are too uncomfortable for most to stomach which is why this is simply a step along a decades long problem with no foreseeable end. Whoever wins the people lose and we ultimately get the government we deserve.

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4 hours ago, jukel123 said:

 Vote Labour, you don't have to like Corbyn or Abbot. Just vote for the policies which will improve ordinary lives. A vote for the tories is a vote for doffing your cap to your so called Eton superiors. It's a vote for"over the top lads I'm right behind you". It's a vote which will take us back to victorian times.We deserve better than that.

Get with the times, every political party and it's politicians hate the little people. Labour highlights including Emily Thornberry's disgust at a constituent's van and St George's flag in his window, Gordon Brown caught calling a constituent 'that bigoted woman', Lord Mandelson's 'we'll rub their noses in diversity'. That's before we even start on the momentum sixth form politics club that want to supervise the little peoples' lives by way of communism. Forget the class warfare comrades, Labour politicians are just as well connected and from the same backgrounds as the Tories, Brexit Party, Lib Dems and Greens and they all despise you. Politicians are interested in creating more government and helping their corporate friends. The rest is just a show for the media and the manifesto promises will soon evaporate. I fell for it all my life until the brexit referendum betrayal made the truth all too obvious.

Remember the caring Lib Dems canvassing for the youth vote a few years back. Nick Clegg now resting easy in his made up corporate job at facebook...

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[Arry 21,501]

To me this time it's Democracy that's at stake here. It's only the Tory's and Brexit Party that are prepared to uphold Democracy. Democracy was hard won and many many people have died for it, but Lid - Dem's, Labour a the Green's don't want you to have it. Your Votes don't count any more to them. Well the referendum was not a One Armed Bandit where if you don't like the result you pull lever to get a different result. A Democratic Vote and the result must be upheld or Democracy is dead, a very dangerous situation. As for the f***ing Lid - Dem's, I can't believe a party in this country can be so arrogant as to stand for Anti Democracy.

Cheers Arry