philpot 5,009 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, vizlauk said: No one mentioned subsonic or hv, my point is you are on the understanding that .22 fac air can do what a .22lr , my point is it can't. The reality Sean is that for the most part, it can. Phil Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 hours ago, vizlauk said: No one mentioned subsonic or hv, my point is you are on the understanding that .22 fac air can do what a .22lr , my point is it can't. With using subs in 22lr which most do and slugs in FAC air it’s on par with each other and I would say groups at 100 yards would tighter with FAC air 1 Quote Link to post
vizlauk 1,568 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Crack on you've made your mind up, each to there own. 1 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 I probably still get the 22lr though Quote Link to post
Rimfireboy! 1,463 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 11 hours ago, villaman said: With using subs in 22lr which most do and slugs in FAC air it’s on par with each other and I would say groups at 100 yards would tighter with FAC air In reply to that, I’ve head shot rabbits out to 180 yards lasered with .22 subs. Purely for pest control, they could be taken with body shots further out than that. Can fac air achieve this? I doubt that they would carry the energy, but then I haven’t had the opportunity to try these slugs. The thing is though, at 22 grains that’s half the weight and less than half the muzzle energy of a .22 sub, I can’t see how they would perform favourably. As for shooting into trees, there’s cb longs etc at 29 grains and 35 ish ft lbs easily available. I keep an open mind and I know how useful fac air is, but as for them being superior to rimfire I reserve judgement. Quote Link to post
philpot 5,009 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rimfireboy! said: In reply to that, I’ve head shot rabbits out to 180 yards lasered with .22 subs. Purely for pest control, they could be taken with body shots further out than that. Can fac air achieve this? I doubt that they would carry the energy, but then I haven’t had the opportunity to try these slugs. The thing is though, at 22 grains that’s half the weight and less than half the muzzle energy of a .22 sub, I can’t see how they would perform favourably. As for shooting into trees, there’s cb longs etc at 29 grains and 35 ish ft lbs easily available. I keep an open mind and I know how useful fac air is, but as for them being superior to rimfire I reserve judgement. Fair points RFB Phil Quote Link to post
philpot 5,009 Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 A bit more info and performance from Matt Dubber on the FX Hybrid slugs. https://www.airgun101.com/index.php/component/allvideoshare/video/new-hybrid-slugs-review-first-hunt?Itemid=307 Phil Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 I will keep to H&N slugs at the moment , specially if they are talking about £15 per hundred , plus H&N slugs work really well 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,803 Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Well ill be testing the ones i got off si in the next few days and if there accurate out to 30 40yrds in a sub 12 crown then ill be getting some , Dont need to shoot out to 100yrds and iv not got fac but will be trying slugs in my rifle as well as 18+grain pellets SOME OF US ARE BLOODY GOOD AT FIELD CRAFT AND CAN GET WITH IN 30 40 YRDS EASILY LOL But it all comes down to what enegy the slug has left in it out of a sub 12 as to whether i use them on vermin or not atvbjimmy 1 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Zeroed the HMR in to day jimmy at 100 yards , who needs slugs 3 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,803 Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, villaman said: Zeroed the HMR in to day jimmy at 100 yards , who needs slugs Got to admit i do like Viz,s hmr I was putting the bullet in the same holes as him out to 100yrds when he let me have a go . You need to shoot a browning 6,5x55 you will never look at your hmr again Mitch HONEST atvbjimmy 1 1 Quote Link to post
philpot 5,009 Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Quote:- SOME OF US ARE BLOODY GOOD AT FIELD CRAFT AND CAN GET WITH IN 30 40 YRDS EASILY Mark will be along soon Phil 2 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,803 Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, philpot said: Quote:- SOME OF US ARE BLOODY GOOD AT FIELD CRAFT AND CAN GET WITH IN 30 40 YRDS EASILY Mark will be along soon Phil STILL DONT KNOW HOW HE CAN PUT FIELD CRAFT WITH SITTING ON HIS ASS IN A HIDE 2 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, bigmac 97kt said: STILL DONT KNOW HOW HE CAN PUT FIELD CRAFT WITH SITTING ON HIS ASS IN A HIDE And leaning on his shooting sticks 1 Quote Link to post
philpot 5,009 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just watched 'Ted's Holdover' on Airgun101 as he was using the FX Hybrid slugs and he stated he will be testing them in all the FX barrel combinations including the standard Smooth Twist like mine so that is worth looking out for. I rate Ted's approach to his testing as I do Matt Dubber and despite some who say they only favour FX, well that may be true but they show what is possible and I do not believe they fudge the results, that is just bullsh1te. https://airgun101.com/index.php/component/allvideoshare/video/my-turn-fx-hybrid-slugs-field-test-revolutionary-air-rifle-ammuntion?Itemid=362 If anyone sees this before me. please put it up on here as I really want to see the results. Phil Quote Link to post
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